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Playoffs2006-06-18 07:03 | Gravgon
The group stage is finally over and we are now enterring the playoffs!

The two best teams of each group are qualified for the playoffs and will be placed into a single elimination tree. In other words, there will be only 2 semi-finals games and then the final and the bronze final.

The matches are:

The Netherlands vs. Belgium

and

Sweden vs. Finland

Those matches have to be played before Tuesday 27th June.

Good luck to everyone!
Comments

[vA]Ghost9
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2006-11-22 13:19 
Thrilling finish!!

emo
Gerdt
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2006-08-19 06:05 
maybe its time to play the final ? ;]
dug-
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2006-07-23 13:57 
mmm'kaii ...
Element^
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2006-07-20 17:50 
The following rules are subject to changes before or during the season, any change will be posted on the news page.

Besides of that, those rules are supposed to be known and understood by everyone, ignoring them will never be an excuse.

The spirit of the rules will always prevail on the letter. All cases can't be covered by the rules, in case of a difficult situation the Organisating team will discuss it.


(I'm shocked Gravgon didn't post this eariler)

This is stated in the rules, under section 1, so if you ask me, he followed "the rules" just fine.
MasterG
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2006-07-09 17:44 
i guess the most intelligent response from dug was "hahahaha", so let's leave it at that
dug-
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2006-07-09 11:56 
This is the second time I try to explain this to you and your empty brain dug. I think you're just gutted because you didn't manage to hide your stupidity long enough to stay in the admin crew of this league.

reply on this: sorry but i dont know who is being fair here ... i didnt do anything to make league worse .. and i did my job as i should but for me defending whats wrong and what is bad, i guess that is bugging you so much that i deserved such sweet feedback from your side
dug-
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2006-07-09 11:51 
gravgon look who is talking .. hahahaha i will save my words against your empty shitless respond to my coment
cheimera: is it my fault that other teams were so slow, did i do anything wrong here ? .. sorry .. than admin should be more rough on shedule and we could have more NON-dalayed league

anyway save your comments as u can see i always find something that makes you nervous
Cheimera
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2006-07-09 09:56 
duggh smart ass you se its hard to get 2 semifinals and 1 final to be played at this time of the year, what would you think would happen if we would have the whole playoff system to be played?
Gravgon
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2006-07-09 09:38 
A little math lesson for you then dug:

Original playoff tree: 10 matches in total, 5 rounds. 1 round = 1 week

=> 5 weeks to be completed.

Current playoff tree: 4 matches in total, 2 rounds => 2 weeks to be completed.

Conclusion: with the original playoff tree, the playoffs would have ended -at best- in the end of july.

As you claim to have a life and blabla, you should know that most people are in vacation during july and august.

Now I hope you understand, dumbass, that if a 2 round playoff format doesn't even get played... how could you expect a 5 rounds one to work better?

This is the second time I try to explain this to you and your empty brain dug. I think you're just gutted because you didn't manage to hide your stupidity long enough to stay in the admin crew of this league.
dug-
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2006-07-09 09:06 
cheimera smart ass than tell me why the cup isnt finished yet if gravgon made his "super cool" move to change cup to single elimination system .. i still cant see here things moving from his dicision and if u are planing to finish this cup in september than i expect from admin to change to double elimination system couse everybody will play during that time ... right ?
so ... explain me why was that decision smart from gravgon side if nothing is moving ?!
Cheimera
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2006-07-09 07:39 
Yeh you dont like Gravgons decision, how can you not like it? it has been explained for you why he made that decision rigth? And there is no other way to finnish this cup. You wouldent win it anyway so why do you cry.

Telling you once again USE YOUR BRAINS MORON and stop picking on the guys who even made this cup for you. Support them in any desicion they make as long as they explain it to you why they make these desicions. I picked on Gravgon to when they made the Groups in the beginning, and Gravgon explained to me how and why the groups came up. And i accepted it cause he was rigth and i was wrong.

Make your own cup and your own rules, have fun....
kolt
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2006-07-07 08:21 
cheimera : first of all this was my opinion and it matters like any other here
second : im not attacking anyone - gravgon has made his decision and i just dont like it
u may find it weird cheimera but some ppl have different opinions about the same case and it doesnt mean they r stupid... grow up

and about u beeing lame - ye its true and at least we r thinking the same way here

dug-
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2006-07-07 04:43 
rooooffllll !!! ... go to bed a litle bit cheimeira u had a nightmare i guess
Cheimera
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2006-07-07 04:09 
omg are you stupid or something!? dug and kolt have you even read what have been said? Same thing here as on the cb cup page, Someone asks or accuses of something and when you counter him with han regular answer, The guy is still like "omg omg why why why, i dont understand omg omg unfair omg omg"

FFS without Gravgon there wouldent even bee this cup. Just dont fucking sign next year if you think hes a fucking asshole just cause he wants to get this cup done.

Sorry for beeing so lame now just that i am loosing my mind because of all these stupid peoples THINK PEOPLE THINK! Fucking Tjernobyl kids...
Gravgon
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2006-07-06 05:40 
Well as you can see, the number of playoffs matches in the first round were reduced to 2 and yet again they haven't been played.
dug-
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2006-07-05 10:39 
finally somebody who agree with me .. kolt true !
not really fair from gravgon
kolt
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2006-07-05 09:02 
changing rules in the middle of the tournament is not fair no matter if its spring/summer/autumn or winter

im surprised with your decision gravgon
dug-
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2006-07-04 13:34 
LOL ... who won ?
Gravgon
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2006-07-04 09:47 
I think it was obvious since the start, wasn't it?
Gerdt
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2006-07-04 09:30 
Heh.. cool +) With only 2 active players I can say Belgium >>> SLO, LTU, EST, POR, NA, UKR, POL, RUS, CZ, UK, CHL

LOL! OWNED!

(bring some flame please ^^)
Cheimera
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2006-06-26 13:43 
whats the fucking ide of playing if your not top 4 anyway? so even if we would play the whole playoffs thing, would you like to win half of your games by W/O? no satisfaction in a W/O win is it? and as gravgon says the final would be in the middle of july, who da hell is playing kwejk in the middle of july?
optimizer
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2006-06-21 15:33 
Someone please call nine whine whine
Nazz
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2006-06-20 13:20 
i agree with you Gravgon. Maybe changing rules isnt very good way but in this case it is the best. Couse as you said its almost mid of summer + footbal world championship makes it even worse. We might finish full playoff program next cup in autum or whenever it will be. And this time qualified teams are those teams who are worth most of all.
zdufs
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2006-06-18 16:21 
cry me a river oooh
MasterG
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2006-06-18 12:31 
putka get a life
dug-
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2006-06-18 10:00 
arch omfg
Putka
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2006-06-18 09:51 
Arch only for you :
http://q2scene.net/nidml/index.php?op=com&id=844
Gerdt
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2006-06-18 09:39 
LOL NICE PIC ARCH XD
arch^
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2006-06-18 09:35 
Where in the rules does it say that 4 teams continue of each group?
Gravgon
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2006-06-18 09:34 
My country will get easy win in the playoffs?

We have to play NED in the semis and it's almost 100% sure that we will lose. There is no double-elimination, so we will be more than likely eliminated after one game. The bronze final will be left where we will have to meet either Finland or Sweden. There again, it's not like we will have an easy walk in the park.

Which means we will get to play 2 more matches than your team, that's all. What a big advantage it is...
Putka
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2006-06-18 09:25 
I think it should be as it is and those who dont play simple w/o. The rule u changed now means that your country and some other will get again easy win in the playoffs.
Im not satisfied with this
Gravgon
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2006-06-18 09:22 
Well Putka if you don't want to play in one of those leagues, fair enough. You're only harming yourself. I don't run leagues for my own satisfaction, the leagues are there for the players so if you don't want to benefit of them, no problem.

The rules have to be dynamic because the teams, on the contrary, aren't too dynamic.

If you take a closer look to what was planned for the playoffs (check the archives), you will notice that it would take minmum 5 weeks to have it completed. Meaning that the final should have been played mid july. Needless to say it would just not be played at all.

So yes, the "dynamic" rules suck. But does it suck more than having the whole playoff fucked up totally? I don't think so, and if you disagree with me, no problem again.
Putka
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2006-06-18 08:48 
Gravgon: I call it abusing on your own.
I can asure you now, that you just lost 1 more team in ndml and nidml and maybe eq2l cup for next season.
I wont play dynamic rules as u think, doesnt matter if ppl are active or not.

bye
dug-
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2006-06-18 08:48 
to gravgon: waw ... if u dont respect rules well .. fuckm' right ? ... i think your would react bit different if your team would be 3rd .. but since u dont care about nobody but your team .. jea .. nice ... long-lasting playoff tree .. ask yourself why ?! ...
patter
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2006-06-18 08:37 
as for me i want 4 teams and SE
Gravgon
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2006-06-18 08:29 
you guys still haven't grasped something it seems:

I have "power above others" because I run the league, it's not like some divine entity has given me the so-called power you're talking about. I worked my ass off to create this whole league, nobody forced you to join it. You can have "power above others" in the league you decide to run you too, if you want.

I don't know if you have noticed but half the group games had to be forced the last week. Among those matches, 2/3 of them resulted into forfaits. There is even one match (EST vs POR) where NONE of the teams showed up.

So I don't see the point to go into some very complicated and long-lasting playoff tree if half of the games will be forfaits anyway. Not mentionning that we are already mid june and that the situation will only get worse.

Edited: 2006-06-18 08:31
dug-
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2006-06-18 08:23 
i am very disapointed about headadmins .. taking care about own butts .. sweet ...
no wonder nidml league sux couse of bunch of ... eh whateva ...
dug-
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2006-06-18 08:16 
jeap ... when u have power above ohters its nice .. u can change/do whatever u want ... nicee a

... ...
patter
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2006-06-18 08:00 
wtf... very nice to change rules when u want
dug-
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2006-06-18 07:42 
no loser bracket ? ... sweet ...
different rules i guess the gg !

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