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Dugah cheats busted
Pov:	Dugah
Map:	q2dm1 « Download
Rodzaj:	cheats
Date recorded:	---
Rate:	(votes: 23)
Downloads:	1987
Date added:	22.12.2006, 14:32
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Added by:	Gerdt	Approved by:	Gerdt
A random insta pickup where in my (and other people's) opinion Dugah (from clan plus) is using a wallhack and possibly other cheats. Comment on this demo. Cheat/No cheat. Wallhack? Aimbot? If he actually cheats, would it mean that r1q2 and the whole anticheat module are as useless as nocheat and q2ace were? My excuses to dugah if there are no cheats used in this demo. After all I'm only the messenger of an higher instance. Let the comments flow!

Comments

dug-	2008-03-26 18:02
	its all about msn
kubi	2008-03-10 14:24
	dugah never use cheats. Pure skill
Gerdt	2007-11-23 12:10
	wallhack imo XD
kolt	2007-01-14 15:27
	pls no more apkis-like geniuses
APKIS	2007-01-14 04:53
	yep
name	2007-01-13 15:51
	The change affected your face dramatically to...
APKIS	2007-01-13 14:49
	that IQ was before few years. Now its dramatically increased.
dx.hr	2007-01-13 13:41
	wow!! thats... thats... thats ABOVE average!!
name	2007-01-13 13:36
	APKIS, most people are note able to understand whats on your mind because your IQ is so high - 114! It must be hard to be a genius, isn't it?
APKIS	2007-01-13 03:47
	sl- if you cant understand its your own problems. dx easy realise the ideas because of my maths
SanQuin	2007-01-09 20:44
	CB response: http://www.clanbase.com/news_league.php?lid=2748
dx.hr	2007-01-09 12:14
	apkis is good at maths u know
`sl	2007-01-09 11:50
	omg apkis , stfu.your english isn't even understandable ... go back to school.
APKIS	2007-01-06 16:47
	zdufs, the life is on.
zdufs	2007-01-04 06:45
	GET A LIFE APKIS
APKIS	2007-01-02 16:04
	Wildfly its just strange why true cant reach sunshine.
wildfly	2007-01-02 15:01
	APKIS you better stfu!
APKIS	2007-01-02 13:05
	3) What's the real background of eq2l? No one can answer this because the message will be deleted
APKIS	2007-01-02 12:44
	wision, the answers to your questions are 10x more questions.
wision	2007-01-02 11:48
	tbh.. i still don't see any (regular) answers to these questions: 1) Why dug wanted to cover other cheaters? 2) Why was putka covering dug? 3) What's the real background of eq2l? 4) Why can't putka just answer to the question and skip all useless comments? don't worry. i don't expect to get any regular answer.. maybe just some another useless comment.
APKIS	2007-01-02 11:33
	and i am not apkis, i am APKIS damn you all... Type correctly....
Putka	2007-01-02 11:05
	Whats more to answer here ? On gravgons comment i replied as i knew from my skill. On wisions comment i replied so he wouldnt be happy. On slonkens i replied for fun and wasnt related to any demo.
APKIS	2007-01-02 10:32
	yep i know
kolt	2007-01-02 10:32
	rofel @ apkis ur soooo smart smart smart buahahaah
wision	2007-01-02 10:18
	apkis they all know what you mean.. but it's better to stfu now instead of making another "dumb" excuse.. so don't expect that anyone will answer you or foen..
APKIS	2007-01-02 10:12
	Foen whats your IQ ? Looks like you are going to be over 100 because you get what i mean (while whose 90% cant ...)
Foen	2007-01-02 07:58
	I fastly read through older comments, and still I didn't find proper answer to this question. Why can't you name those players who chated? I honestly can't think any good reason why someone would protect ppl who cheat. Unless you are not support cheating and think it is ok.
dug-	2007-01-02 05:39
	NUBS READ WHAT I WROTE IN FIRST FEW COMMENTS dug- avatar 2006-12-22 22:54 well at least i proved something .. there is NO ANTIcheat client .. well the story was ...usually when i play, and when i start suspecting someone using cheats,wh or bot .. i disc..reconenct with fake nick and record him .. and then i watch the demo .. that night i dl-ed this wh from mpc download.com ... watched few demos .. kinda 50:50 if two players cheats(i dont wanna named them) but they are polish ... anyway .. i saw few ppl playing on some server .. tried to connect with r1q2 using wh on it .. and i made it .. beside .. i have updated the r1q2 client .. and also anticheat.dll and everything what i got from r1ch.net .. played 2,3 games .. well as u saw .. i was playing really suspicios .. but nobody asked .. eii u are using wh !! .. or smtn .. i would confirm my answer with jes! .. tbh .. i dont cheat .. and i will still be some avarage player .. well i know a lots of good players used cheats or tryed them (let say: scooby?) ,jea in that days there was some ghay ace client or nocheat or even havent been any client .. .....
dud4	2007-01-02 04:08
	rofl.
careem	2007-01-01 23:58
	bah dug that isnt "testing wh" anymore.....
Digital	2007-01-01 20:51
	Poor quality but I'd say busted again..
SanQuin	2007-01-01 20:24
	If one player cheats, the clan suffers. Does not mean you all cheat, but it will have consequences for your clan as a whole. Duug said he only used wallhack in this q2dm1 demo. However someone sent me a recam of another of his demos with wallhack on. I put it on youtube (No, I did not make it). The quality became lousy but still it is worth a watch. If you want a better version, just ask around because this vid is probably spreading via MSN quite rapidly. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5DEXF3n6Lg
wision	2007-01-01 20:08
	maybe because dug is (was) from plus? i think that's it...
`sl	2007-01-01 20:06
	YEAH BLAME DUG AND BUSH !
careem	2007-01-01 20:02
	and why u all the time blame whole plus clan?
SanQuin	2007-01-01 19:43
	I saw someone hinting that r1ch's protection was flawed because of this wallhack demo. I did not read through all comments (so perhaps someone else already mentioned this) but this server was NOT protected with rich's anticheat. The protection has been updated about 3 hours ago, but at the time of the demo the server was unprotected. Thus this demo means nothing for rich's anticheat. However it does mean something for duug and clan plus. Really sorry to see cheats like this mess up the q2 scene
wision	2007-01-01 19:37
	well.. you can expect now another 10 comments like "stfu foen... it's not your business" sad.. i'm interested in answer as well
Foen	2007-01-01 19:32
	Sorry, if we are so damn stupid that we don't understand it. So could you be so kind and explain it to us? And no wonder there are over 300 posts when you are dodging questions. Can't you just answer to the question and skip all useless comments, like one under this? Or include that crap to same post than the answer?
Putka	2007-01-01 19:05
	ahahhaahahahah "no connection" this is the best one
wildfly	2007-01-01 19:00
	hehe, i start quake II, i go to menu, set up my keys and play! then im not a cheater. Cheating starts with a fucking "alias" script so if this is allowed, who says what is and what is not allowed? Alone sounds gives you xx% more skill. New textures, brightskins, and so on... so who of u all plays with standard quake II? yeye true, i bleieve. r1ch works fine, but there is no realy control, if you dont play at a local tourney. do it like me. i play now minigolf at www.playray.de greets
Foen	2007-01-01 18:33
	Hmm, I can't see a connection between your euroq2l stunts and this "wh testing". So APKIS is not the only one who is wondering about your reason. This looks way worse now when you denied it at first. You can't blame ppl that they don't believe your excuses after you have lied to them in the beginning. Anyway, he cheated on public server with his real nick and he didn't tell it to his opponents. Maybe he just tested it, maybe he didn't. Nevertheless he deserves a punishment. And Muerte, you clearly haven't followed last Euroq2l and how plus have proved their trustworthy there. Gerdt: I think you should show more proofs, if you really have them. Talking doesnt make anyone a cheater.
wision	2007-01-01 18:29
	looks like 99% of ppl don't know the background of eq2l so can you explain it more putka?
Putka	2007-01-01 17:37
	Apkis: because you didnt follow our eq2l games on irc. It would be obvious if you knew that before why did i reply on those comments as i did. Ofc u cant know that if you dont know the background of eq2l. Anything else ?
careem	2007-01-01 15:22
	shut up gangsta apkis
APKIS	2006-12-31 13:22
	Dug- ok you told someone ( WAS IT PUTKA?) you will cheat. The main shit is that WHY THE HELL PUTKA DENIED THAT YOU USED CHEAT ETC AND LATER YOU AND HE ADMITED THAT YOU CHEATED. Thats the most strange thing....
APKIS	2006-12-31 10:11
	I dont know what did you do that night, but there wasn't any notices in q2scene (i mean all quakers (most of them) didnt know about your wh trying.) So next time when you will try to check how works aimbot, make a thread in forum. gg
floyd	2006-12-31 08:39
	dug, sigh, I never accused you of cheating in more than that game. The thing is that cheating in 1 game is enough to be completely discredited. (for me at least, and I was hoping the rest of the Q2 community would react in the same way, which it pretty much did.)
dud4	2006-12-31 08:07
	it's good as a sylvester joke
dug-	2006-12-31 08:06
	i admited that i used wh that night .. ffs are u all stupid or u just dont know how to read .. APKIS read what was my atention of trying wh that night ! same goes for floyd and his mates ...
APKIS	2006-12-31 07:52
	i forgot to wrote one comment: Lets back to start and read Putka's comments: (c) Putka Most obvious moments imo: - at ~6:15: when he tries to shoot the guy who hides at the mega-entrance of the lift. //i could hear a sound coming from mega so i would do the same - at ~3:10: when he fights with the guy who was at upper RL/cells, it's obvious he's chasing him through the wall. //its obvious that guy is there since your team mate is still shoting on him. \|Man thats was the gayest explanation ever. Its same as to prove that water doesnt boil at 100 degree when p=10100 Pa.\| Lets go more: (c) Putka slok: LOL, he can't even hit with cheat! Because there is no cheat \|YEP THERE IS NO CHEAT\| What's more: (c) Putka putka probably didn't read my comment :< //thats a random reflex shot (c) Putka Because there is no cheat //dug admitted on irc that he was using wallhack.. got it now? I know that already...anything else ? \|Isnt it strange? He just proved that he didnt know about that or maybe realise that he must help his teammate etc etc etc Dont have time to make more shit here \|
floyd	2006-12-30 20:21
	Was that sarcastic, Muerte? If so: nice :>, if not: wtf?
Muerte	2006-12-30 20:06
	Gerdt wrote: "Shall i upload some more dug cheat material? Maybe that will shut him up?" Well Gerdt, im sure you threat with empty gun. When i read dug post i simply cant believe that he is cheating even if he admit cheating. (irc,mirc whatever) Other cheaters just disappeared (eXtrEme, bH\|Tech, jnt.cc ), claim his cheats expired after 3 years (abc) call his cheats "underage crime" (avi) Dug-s fight for his right to test cheat is something never seen on any quake2 forum. I cant believe that guilty man can be that strongmindend to defend himself like Dug do. I'm more convinced in dug innocent when i read post from his character witness putka and dx. I'm sure all scene know this two clan Plus players from previous euroq2l season and how they are trustworthy. I'm twice more convinced when i read post from his lawyer careem. His arguments about 'dugah useless cheat' are so strong, and im sure noone from DemoSquad cant argue with careem on his level. Gerd just look what damage you do with this one demo with 'dugah useless cheat' Clan Plus kicked form ClanBase Insta Cup Will Gravgon allow Slovenian Top Insta player dugah to play in NDML for Slovenia So Gerd next time you shuld think twice before you do same thing...
floyd	2006-12-30 18:50
	I cba to repeat the same things over and over again.
dud4	2006-12-30 13:36
	Careem: I think the only reason dugatari gets so much "attention" for this is that he was stupid enough to keep trying to defend his case, and when he noticed that obviously could never work, started to insult everyone in sight. Very smart guy. :') i've seen smth like this here too..
_siwy_	2006-12-30 13:16
	You are jiveass Karim You are not better :
dug-	2006-12-30 09:54
	floyd ... hahahahahhaa :')))) man u are fuunnyyyy ! or is your head empty or u just dont know what is going on here man :'))) hahahahaha floyd change your nick to FLOLYD or smtn ... and now mr.smartass tell me about what "case" are we exectly talking about ? i'd like to hear if we understand each other here ... eh flolyd ...
careem	2006-12-30 09:22
	maq: abc, age, extreme, jnt, ricky, tech, siwy,...
floyd	2006-12-30 07:25
	Careem: I think the only reason dugatari gets so much "attention" for this is that he was stupid enough to keep trying to defend his case, and when he noticed that obviously could never work, started to insult everyone in sight. Very smart guy. :')
xed	2006-12-30 06:00
	wision: careem.. are you really that dumb .... yes, he is
wision	2006-12-30 04:12
	careem.. are you really that dumb or what are you trying to achieve with comments like that?
maq	2006-12-30 03:08
	"There are so many polish cheaters" don't repeat itself and tell some names or simply shut up
careem	2006-12-29 23:35
	Hehe this dugah useless cheat used in random pickup game made him popular and most know player on world in q2. There are so many polish cheaters and here and there russians/finish, but dug is 1st and probablly last cheat "user" from Slovenia. The dugah wh turns q2scene/clanbase around, we were kicked from clanbase instagib without any reason... Actually there is reason, dugah cheated - plus kicked, but dugah cheated in random game not in clanbase league games also there is evidence[demos], but they better removed us from the clanbase itdm. =)))) Dugah changed our future in q2. Keep posting comments here lets have more fun, this is really funny q2 xmas and new year.
dx.hr	2006-12-29 23:33
	can we make it to 300?
floyd	2006-12-29 18:24
	Dug, you probably realise this yourself, but now you're really making a joke out of yourself and showing little respect for Q2, still the best game of all time.
necro	2006-12-29 17:46
	I LIKE
Muerte	2006-12-29 17:33
	dug- wrote: "careem thats easy ... how to exec speedhack and autoaim plus wh " wow clan Plus have own haxor who made "autoaim plus wh"
Thuggee	2006-12-29 14:53
	LOL "Learn me"
dug-	2006-12-29 13:57
	careem thats easy ... ask me something harder like .. how to exec speedhack and autoaim plus wh and maybe some bots too
careem	2006-12-29 13:04
	master dug learn me, how to use wh?
dug-	2006-12-29 09:45
	and xed ... how do u know if i cheated or i didnt ? since u maybe saw me playing 5,6times .... and i will not stfu .. couse from now on u will all call me master dug .. and u will respect my authorita ! specially gerdt,floyd & CO.
dug-	2006-12-29 09:43
	GERDT FAGSter ... give us some more demos !!!!!!! xed .. i am famous now right ? promotion is good mkaiiiiii
xed	2006-12-29 03:49
	200 comments, Good promo dugah
xed	2006-12-29 03:48
	Dugah why dont you stfu? You are like THE joke and make it worser Im sure you played many games without cheat, but WHO CARES. You cheated too, so stfu please
dug-	2006-12-28 19:54
	rofl .. hide what ?! well go ahead .. let me see where u found all those speedhacks and autoaim stuff and rofl whaeva more u got
Gerdt	2006-12-28 19:52
	Yeah ignore the question good job. 1..2...3 HIDE NOW!
dug-	2006-12-28 19:52
	jes gerdt and dont forget the speedhack
Gerdt	2006-12-28 19:50
	Shall i upload some more dug cheat material? Maybe that will shut him up? Go hide dug, in a very dark corner where noone can see you. Oh and don't forgot your frkq2.zip
dug-	2006-12-28 19:44
	floyd well till u all talk some bullshit .. why i should have some fun too ? the case is strong .. ask yourself who made it
floyd	2006-12-28 19:33
	Keep on talking abuse like that dugatari, it will only make your case stronger.
Inconce?vable	2006-12-28 18:36
	¤ eXtrEme wh eXtrEme 28.12.2006 cheats q2dm8 1.5 (2) 55 4 ¤ combi(aimbot) vs purri combi 27.12.2006 cheats q2dm1 4 (6) 143 22 ¤ bH\|Tech wh Tech 27.12.2006 cheats q2dm1 0 (0) 56 5 ¤ abc aimbot abc 27.12.2006 cheats q2dm1 5.5 (2) 85 7 ¤ jnt.cc aimbot jnt.cc 27.12.2006 cheats q2dm1 0 (0) 87 2 ¤ Dugah cheats busted Dugah 22.12.2006 cheats q2dm1 4 (21) 300 191 will Dug a 200 comments?
dug-	2006-12-28 16:39
	thuggee sorry for telling u ... but your ass is being pwnd all the time so i know u are used to bend over and your moto is: at your servise my master ... couse only word u can say is whatever u say.. sorry but that sounds like u are some slave .. and u are skilled in using that word .. pretty sad thuggee .. i hope your ass doesnt hurt when u sit ...
Thuggee	2006-12-28 16:34
	what ever you say cheater
dug-	2006-12-28 16:09
	and i dont know why some lamefucks like gerdt&floyd&gravgon are having so much against me and they are trying so hard to shut me up and try to convince others that i am just a cheater and i always was or i still am ... just couse they have some power against others,but it seems some nub from slovenia shut them up .. where is the power now ? and if cheaters should be banned for eva .. why i still see them playing in leagues ? and about my case .. just couse u have one piece of shit demo of wh-ing,u made this thing so big that it looks like u founded 100 demos of mine cheating ... but sorry dudes ... i smell vagina from gerdt pants ...
Muerte	2006-12-28 15:16
	Gravgon wrote: "I can't stand this little circus where it seems ok for known cheaters to come here and argue whether they cheated or not in this or that particular game." i dont know when this post disappear but after this Gravgon comment, case is closed.
dx.hr	2006-12-28 13:24
	funny how everyone got quiet when dug posted his demos fps any comments? gerdt any non-ironic (idiotic) comments? ok, floyd you had enough comments, no more required
dug-	2006-12-28 07:28
	floyd... ? i still didnt get the answer ...
floyd	2006-12-28 06:48
	...
dug-	2006-12-28 03:38
	floyd ... excusee mee ? with what am i making myself even worse ass .. with owning u here ? pls be more specific what are u talking about not blabling some shitwords mkai ? drugs are bad floyd .. use them properly
careem	2006-12-27 21:21
	haha LOL floyd, dug was really owned for 1st time, dug strike back!
floyd	2006-12-27 21:08
	XD. Just be quiet, dug, you're making an even worse ass out of yourself than you already did.
dug-	2006-12-27 19:51
	mhm truth hurts gerdt ... is nice eng all what u can say in defence ? gg
Gerdt	2006-12-27 19:39
	nice english
dug-	2006-12-27 19:22
	p.s gerdt .. your brains were already haxed by a monkey why should i listen less inteligent "thing(as what u are)" ... i dont feel like playing with bananas if u want that so much go hide gerdt ...
dug-	2006-12-27 19:20
	u obviously didnt find a dick with your glasses to explain your irony ... and pls if u want to prove something that u cant ... go masturbate on floyds picture ... i know u are the best in that and i can rofl how much i want .. i have reason .. i mean u make me do it
Gerdt	2006-12-27 18:32
	You obviously didn't find the irony in my last post dug. Try to google a braincheat or something ;]]
floyd	2006-12-27 17:31
	Now you're just talking bullshit dug. "If they want to fuck me up"? You fucked yourself up.
Thuggee	2006-12-27 17:29
	what's so funny cheater?
dug-	2006-12-27 16:43
	as u say floyd ... i already know i have no power against them (gravgon & co ) and if they want to fuck me up .. they can even with this one demo right as gerdt posted before aimbot wallhack speedhack radar autoaim ? .. hahahahaha i really wanna see that all in one demo gerdt such a ownage by gerdt enjoy
floyd	2006-12-27 16:05
	dug, just shut up. I'm sick of this too; this really should be a closed topic. Gravgon is right, zero-tolerance is the only solution. You admitted using the cheat in a public game, that should be the end of the case. Banned from all leagues and zero respect from every "morally" playing Q2 player.
dug-	2006-12-27 15:27
	gerdt hahahahhahahahahaha ... now for real ... what are u talking about ? u mixed topic or smtn ?
Gerdt	2006-12-27 14:45
	aimbot wallhack speedhack radar autoaim ?
dug-	2006-12-27 13:21
	Gerdt . fPs .. and why u need these demos anyway ? what is your point here ?
dug-	2006-12-27 13:16
	floyd .. u got only 1 demo i used wh .. and that demo is here ... and that is the first and the last one .. so pls .. i am sick of it
floyd	2006-12-27 12:56
	dug.. Do you really think that by proving that you didn't use cheats in one particular game, you're cleared of all charges? No-one doubts that you ever played a game without using cheats; it's about the games where you did, of course.. :/
xed	2006-12-27 12:54
	CHEATER!
dug-	2006-12-27 12:26
	and everyone here who is has soo much to tell about and is skilled in talking bullshit ... i hope u will watch demos .. and prove me i was using wh here too right ? jeaaa babyyyy......
dug-	2006-12-27 11:58
	i uploaded dm3 and rdm2 the link is bellow ... http://www.sendspace.com/file/f2f3wn well i hope u will find wallhack here .. and pls comments on demos ..
dug-	2006-12-27 11:49
	fps .. gerdt ... come to irc ... i have both demos i can send ... i am w8ting ...
floyd	2006-12-27 11:03
	Good work kolt.
kolt	2006-12-27 10:56
	Ive decided 2add new category - CHEATERS? Let all know who is/was using cheats - i dont care if it was "only test" All cheats r baaaad and we shud do all we can 2remove cheaters from q2 community PLZ upload only those demos which r pretty obvious 2judge Dug's demo is first there so he shud be proud now.
Gerdt	2006-12-27 09:04
	dug could u give to me rdm2 demo plus vs tak from insta cup? ur pov offcoz Or did you forget to record?
fpS	2006-12-27 05:56
	dug, dont ignore me boy
dud4	2006-12-27 04:51
	"well .. we all should play on original q2 stuff ! lol that would be crap (graphics ofcourse) .. since pak can make your q2 pretty l337" u must be the leet, not your q2...
wision	2006-12-27 04:48
	well.. then i'm cheater too.. i use teamskin swap (i hate male jumping sound).. and i know that lot of ppl use both models male... but however is that model big, hitmodel is still same for every player model in q2 (no.. you can't hit cyborg better than female because cyborg model is bigger..) anyway, this is not purpose of spiked models.. it just let you know where is enemy (if enemy is near wall, behind a corner etc..)
dug-	2006-12-27 04:10
	wision if he use all male models ... cheat !! male models are bigger than female ? easier to hit right ? well .. we all should play on original q2 stuff ! lol that would be crap (graphics ofcourse) .. since pak can make your q2 pretty l337
Inconce?vable	2006-12-27 03:53
	very big discussion about Dug Dugah cheats busted Dugah 22.12.2006 cheats q2dm1 4.43 (21) 273 155
xed	2006-12-27 03:24
	thuggee's problem is that he use male models instead of females (so everybody look like male).. that's all, no spiked models at all dug- true, i use some stuff from thges pak and all models are male and dug wanna know a little secret, theres no spikes!
fpS	2006-12-27 02:22
	dug could u give to me rdm2 demo plus vs tak from insta cup? ur pov offcoz
MG!	2006-12-26 23:49
	Dug plz stfu ur dumbass!chitaz
wision	2006-12-26 19:07
	well... dug you can't say that he has spiked models only bacause you saw that he failed to some hashchecks... i did fail once (with 24 failed models) but i have no spiked models (trust me plz, i just swapped models with quake 2 "link" variable)... thuggee's problem is that he use male models instead of females (so everybody look like male).. that's all, no spiked models at all
dug-	2006-12-26 17:49
	hahaahahah ... whats the matter thuggee u mad on somebody .. or just couse of me couse we were all laughing to you tonight couse u have spiked models in your pak ? everytime u connected u had more and more of them )))) gg! pls stfu and dont be jelous ... u are the best u know that ...
Thuggee	2006-12-26 17:15
	DUG best wallhacker ever!!!!!!!!!
Hibru	2006-12-26 10:29

dug-	2006-12-26 09:10

name	2006-12-25 18:10
	Leave him alone! Can't you see he just smells frags trough the walls!
R1CH	2006-12-25 12:21
	Careem, as others have said, the tools are there for the players and server admins. Get anticheat supported client from http://antiche.at/ and server admins, please see my forum for more info on making an anticheat enabled server: http://www.r1ch.net/forum/index.php?topic=976.0 Without an anticheat enabled server, anticheat.dll won't even get loaded, it does nothing without support from the server.
Digital	2006-12-25 09:54
	Gravgon was spot on again. There is no justification for cheatuse apart from testpurposes which are done on closed enviroment or so it's known by others (ie. like eXe and co. did). About updating majority of servers with proper anticheat: Even though I would be glad to see this happen I doubt we'll get there as long as cups/leagues allow clients like NoCheat. R1CH has the tools but imo the q2scene and leagueadmins have the ball.
floyd	2006-12-25 09:13
	Gravgon said it. Wision said it too.
wision	2006-12-25 08:33
	my mistake... i should see that you are not trying to argue but you just want to say some shit, like you do all the time..
careem	2006-12-25 08:27
	What the fuck wision u have to replay on every single post or what? Fuck off u fucking dumb idiot like i care about your stupid post u posting here u. U wanna be smart ass or what the fuck u wanna be man, get lost plz. -> [avis] - i agree with wision, you should ban plus from all leagues. you see i have too much of free time and when someone cheats it destroys the meaning of my life and all i have left is writing useless comments on some random polish quake 2 site.
wision	2006-12-25 04:37
	"10games per year and be the best??!?" i saw some lbp players on xs4all so they are practising for sure.. "Btw i dont give a fuck for those players since dug is "top" cheater." oh come on careem.. you can do better than this "Ps: r1ch do something about all that for q2scene and next leagues" he already did that... now you have to ask q2 server admins to use anticheat on their servers..(and set it up properly)
Inconce?vable	2006-12-25 04:17
	yep. dug is dumb but there is a big difference between dug and for example combi... dug tried wh and i hope that he takes from it lesson. i still think that he is a normal boy which dont want spoil the game to others...
dud4	2006-12-24 23:08
	careem siwy also + member as i see it on the squadlist.. great advertisement to u again
Gravgon	2006-12-24 22:06
	I haven't read the last dozen of comments so it might have been already said. Cheating in a game of Q2 will get you banned from leagues, whatever your "reasons" were. You cheated against people who didn't know about it. I'm pretty sure you would have never said a word about it if you hadn't got busted. Btw, on ClanBase, if you get caught cheating in ANY game, be it an official match or a random public game, you get banned for AT LEAST 6 months from all cups/ladders. This is nothing new. Merry Christmas to everybody
careem	2006-12-24 21:46
	btw u all are flooding dug about cheaters, look: - siwy - Poland console: &%trf rbkck .disconnect.any.bots. "c0" is "rbkck" [BTF]Rogal was railed by [BTF]reaver Teammate Kill +CAREEM^^: i cant see shit ewho was railed by [BTF]reaver b1g was railed by ewho Teammate Kill +CAREEM^^ was blown away by b1g's super shotgun [BTF]Rogal was railed by ewho [BTF]reaver was railed by ewho +CAREEM^^: siwy use bots? [BTF]reaver: lol WallFly[BZZZ]: he had them all Time up. Vote failed. No changes made. [BTF]Rogal was railed by ewho +CAREEM^^: lol [BTF]reaver joined team "Hometeam" [BTF]reaver entered the game (clients = 4) +CAREEM^^: .tell me names wallfly b1g: emo +CAREEM^^ joined team "Visitors" +CAREEM^^ entered the game (clients = 5) Stopped demo, recorded 28296 bytes. WallFly[BZZZ]: he had frkq2 and open.hell - Ag3 [xxx] - Poland foV\|sober: bo mi sie we lbie kreci xxx: i no cheats xxx: omg u know spiked models xxx: ? console: xxx remove cheats or be banned need1: +E need1: +E xxx: omg xxx: idota foV\|sober ate need1's rocket xxx: moment xxx was cut in half by +CAREEM^^'s chaingun xxx: i deleted spiked models xxx: emo xxx: in pak xxx removed from team "fools" xxx wimped out and left. (clients = 3) (+CAREEM^^): hahaha foV\|sober: hehee - Abc Abc was busted tho, on EDC! BTF server scanned his pc, but he wasnt using cheats he had them only on his pc. (kolt02) he really had some shit ? (CAREEM^^02) he is using those hacks, yes emo (kolt02) he was cought with aimbot earlier (kolt02) on polish servers (kolt02) so he is prolly cheating (kolt02) we had some demos (kolt02) when he has aimbot (kolt02) so now its possible that he has some other shit (CAREEM^^02) hmm (kolt02) just ask some polish players about it (kolt02) whole polish scene knows that (kolt02) emo (kolt02) didnt know that stanlej = abc (kolt02) now i know (kolt02) hehe (CAREEM^^02) maybe reason why he faked his nick emo (CAREEM^^02) hehe (kolt02) its so obvious -yuka yuka [slovenia], yuka is now inactive since we cought him cheating.. He used renamed ratbot as r1q2. Btw, .lpb. or whatever they are they are always the best on insta leagues, but the thing is i never ever saw them playing not offical game only offical wich it means 5-10games per year, each game is 15mins.. 10games per year and be the best??!?! Btw i dont give a fuck for those players since dug is "top" cheater. Ps: r1ch do something about all that for q2scene and next leagues
MasterT	2006-12-24 18:03
	Well I never used aimbot or wh(even never was interested of how it looks like, was enough to see aimbot/speedbot etc. on ffa servers, btw have demo where I win duel vs player who use wh - its like a prove that cheats is only for weak) And I had some lucky days where I played well and in some part it can looks like I play with cheats. I can upload that(only if it will be request). Btw I guess luck is a part of skill. I agree with careem's last post, nice talk man, respect. The eyes believe themselves, the ears believe other people.
careem	2006-12-24 17:58
	omfg dug > . DUG u did mistake to remove yourself from CB caus u did awesome jobs so far as admin and 2 bad u removed yourself from our clan. For gerdt u always try to do some stupid joke for ppl cos u are old on q2scene and u know that ppl will step behind u and fooling ppl.. Ah u sux since u and gravgon maybe kolt tho are editing and posting not orginal posts here on q2scene from users... u guys are nothing else for me then bunch of stupid kids , acting like u are without toys [examples: me, mastert, dx...]
dug-	2006-12-24 16:11
	gerdt roftlol LAMO lol ... and what shoud i say to him ? if he wants to watch game against tak! he i can send him demo ... lololooolooololl to gerdt !
Gerdt	2006-12-24 15:24
	"Blaizz i got demo from plus vs tak! on dm3 if u are interested i can send u ..." Lolol i so knew you would say that. -> psyhologised <- gg dug
dug-	2006-12-24 15:22
	why anyone isnt saying .. come on dug .. lets play a bit ... i already said .. try me if u doubt in my rail skills so much ...
Blaizz	2006-12-24 14:57
	"yeee lets all play with cheats on friendly games" warlock you didn't understand me at all.. of course cheating is bad in any case but just wanted to say in prev post that to ban player from ALL leagues guess must be more serious proofs than just friendly game conclusion, and maybe there should be more impartially and fair to analize his cb insta demos and make more correctly decisions after that. peace..
wision	2006-12-24 14:50
	no.. i still don't get it... curiosity is human nature, deceiving other people is not..
dx.hr	2006-12-24 14:48
	who cares about nubs opinion. dug come back
warlock.	2006-12-24 14:46
	dug i never wrote that plus is cheating only you, anyway i dont give a fuck but rules should be respected to stop next testers
dug-	2006-12-24 14:11
	warlock ... i already removed myself from CB as ref and as player of plus ... not couse i am cheater and u all have 100 demos to prove it .. but couse ppl are blaming whole plus of cheating just couse of that mine mistake i did ... hope u feel better now ... and wision .. it doesnt matter .. public server or non.public .. they TRIED CHEATS .. get it ? merry x-mas to all !
Sonic	2006-12-24 14:06
	no cheats i see here :/
dud4	2006-12-24 14:04
	muerte i can agree with wision about the 'difference'.
warlock.	2006-12-24 13:43
	blaizz "imo using wh in practice/training/friendly games shows NOTHING.. except.. doubts about using/nonusing wh in official league games which must be played absolutely fair.." yeee lets all play with cheats on friendly games if dude wont be banned all next people caught on cheating will say : I was just testing !! like i said any warfare related to all kinds of cheating should be exterminated
wision	2006-12-24 13:15
	i thought it was obvious... it's not about trying or not.. there's huge difference between trying cheats on your private server with your mate who knows about it and trying cheats on public game without anybody knowing about the cheats.. that's why other ppl just don't know if they should trust you or not.. so.. saying that 90% of players tried cheats is useless because it's not about trying.. it's about being dumb.. by playing lot of games against you i get an impression that you are just normal player and one demo won't change my mind, but sure.. you did a mistake :-/
dug-	2006-12-24 12:27
	"ppl dont think that u cheats all the time , but if ya get busted once, then next time when u do some nice things by skill, some ppl will think that it's cheat or smth... i just meant smth like this." well read muertes comm above and tell me ... would people now also doubt that zorre/slonken/thaigo cheats since they tried it ?
Muerte	2006-12-24 12:18
	@duda i must admit we (eunet sever) has problems with some fackenickers, nubcheaters and we decided 1st and only in europe to put whole rich antecheat protection on all 3 eunetservers and we also help rich to improve acticheat code usin % can be very interest zorre admit: slonken/zorre try frko !! omg 50% swede ndml team try chats or thaigo on irc say that he try zbot on edome ffa server omg 50% 2ez team in 2x2? league try cheats... ... what a statistic...
dud4	2006-12-24 12:12
	ppl dont think that u cheats all the time , but if ya get busted once, then next time when u do some nice things by skill, some ppl will think that it's cheat or smth... i just meant smth like this. sportmanship for all;D btw relax , it's cristmas time
dug-	2006-12-24 12:02
	doubts or not .. they are always welcome to challange me if they want ... right ? and maybe .. maybeee one reason for making such panic couse of that demo is perhaps some ppl wants to ger rid of me .. why: plus is doing well in cb insta .. and without me,things will go easier for others? .. well,tbh not really,if some ppl think so .. and 1 thing also .. why is so "big thing" couse of that demo,and why do u care so much about me like i am some God or smtn .. for last few years when i started to play instagib i was getting better and better, is maybe couse some ppl are jelous ? my first insta clan was AF .. go to CB and see their history,and screens (my nick was delluxe,as lots of ppl already know that), i was pretty good player already than .. and in 2 years i couldnt get good ? .. and now ppl doubt in my play couse i am "cheating" .. rofl ! i am so boring explaining all that, and that some ppl acutally thing i am cheating since i started to play q2 or smtn ? come on ... well i did mistake,i used wh that night .. i admited (and i said what was the meaning of me to dl the wh for that time).. but seriously .. that means i am a cheater and i was before ?! PLS ! and final question: how would u react if like purri,damiah,gerdt or dunno who would use cheat(or they tried already,i am not saying they did,but they can say by themself)...would u tolerate that ? would u say: jea they are pro players,they just tried so what,they are still good and we respect them couse they really rox .. or would u demand ban ... and i dont know what shit more u want from them if they would admit that .. ? eh whaeva ...
dud4	2006-12-24 11:25
	well dug u can do everything what u want... i just wanted to mean: it's much worst for me when u blasts 3 other guy's game , then make a wh test in an insta game.. but ofc cheats bad too. i can agree in that, u usually don't play that really good, to someone think that u r cheating.. but don't suprise on that.. some ppl who played against u leagues, have doubts after this demo..
dug-	2006-12-24 10:51
	now tell me .. wtf has disconnecting to do with my "cheating" ? do u see any conection here ? .. if i would cheat .. i would be more "PRO" on servers and i wouldnt whinne so much right ? ... pls ppl u are all so confused .. couse you dont know what u are talking about .. i think lots of ppl observed me in games i played,doesnt matter if that was insta or tdm .. if somebody would suspect me that i cheat .. i would be cought already, and i think u all agree with that statement i just said ..
dud4	2006-12-24 10:29
	muerte u must be a politician.. LOL... now u will say just like usually 'u lie duda' , but i remember , like 1-2 months ago u told me there are a lot of haxors on balkan.. so chill maan.. and i say now 3rd time, noone talked about the best players from this area.
dud4	2006-12-24 10:27
	Putka i started in 2000 But played my first 2 years on hun server only , so dunno what happened on thoose times on foreign servers... But in last 3 years i meet much more cheaters on balkan , then other areas... and this is no offence to your clan , i know 'old' guys can play well and most of them don't need hax.. But theese are just my experiences. About Dug , hopefully he doesn't cheat in leagues... and maybe not that big problem to "test" wh in friendly games... but what test good for? do the server kickme or not, this needs 3 games or what? i just had angry on him a few times when we couldn't play 2v2 cuz he disced, and we waited 30 mins for 4th before.. :F
Muerte	2006-12-24 10:27
	dud4 wrote "maybe it's a fashion on balkan to try them , and the '90% tryed' can be true there...," now all balkan players are chetaers necro, maxy, frenzy, dx, avis, careem, putka, sl, zdufs, lin, me? who is nail your ass so hard from balkan duda nema muda
Putka	2006-12-24 10:19
	Dud4: how long have you been playing this game ? Try remember year ~2000-- & you will know what i mean.
dud4	2006-12-24 10:02
	floyd: - I've seen dugatari quitting in games quite a few times, so it's not really the first time he's acted lame. behind with 6-8 frags after 2 mins in 2v2 is a great REASON alltime for dug i've seen it lot of times.. And i disagree about 90% of q2 ers tryed cheates... maybe it's a fashion on balkan to try them , and the '90% tryed' can be true there..., But i think here are a lot of legit players , who never seen any cheat clients or other shit stuff (like me) , and never were intrested about to try/test/fun with them , so talk in your name uhh..
dug-	2006-12-24 09:49
	aviseee
avis	2006-12-24 09:42
	i agree with wision, you should ban plus from all leagues. you see i have too much of free time and when someone cheats it destroys the meaning of my life and all i have left is writing useless comments on some random polish quake 2 site.
dug-	2006-12-24 09:42
	we can go play 4v4 random pickup insta right now if u want to ..and everybody can spectate me .. so we'll see if i can prove that my aim is like it is ...
dug-	2006-12-24 09:40
	and floyd .. i disconnect wiht reason not couse being lame .. disconnecting might be lame .. but i am not mkai ...
dug-	2006-12-24 09:39
	Blaizz i got demo from plus vs tak! on dm3 if u are interested i can send u ...
Blaizz	2006-12-24 09:27
	imo using wh in practice/training/friendly games shows NOTHING.. except.. doubts about using/nonusing wh in official league games which must be played absolutely fair.. after watching this demo the first thing which were daaamn interesting for me was the question about last game in instacup plus vs TAK! ( http://www.clanbase.com/news_league.php?nid=235155&lid=2748 ) - the game where you've shown impressive aim and best whole net in team on highest ping, really well played.. would be great to see the demos.. and if they are ok (have no doubts) many people will shut up with their blames and attacking on you and need have to recognize your pure skillz in official matches.. gl bro.. ps: there ain't blames or smth like that at all.. just logical interest and trying to fix the casual incident..
floyd	2006-12-24 09:10
	Pretty weird that so many people accept his excuses without ado. - Not every player has tried cheats, and certainly not without telling his opponents, and while playing on a public server in a pickupgame. - I've seen dugatari quitting in games quite a few times, so it's not really the first time he's acted lame. - Thus: I reckon he simply felt like winning, so played in a pickup game while using some cheats. Too bad dugah, you got busted.
`sl	2006-12-24 07:36
	nuff said
Real[RJ]	2006-12-24 06:43
	Cheater, simle is that 6.min shows every proof, shame on you lamer.
wision	2006-12-24 04:31
	tbh necro i'm not trying to attack dug at all.. yeah, my last comment is a bit offensive (huh), but don't tell me that i'm wrong..
necro	2006-12-24 00:45
	wision, really your presence dont disturb me, but particularly you persist to keep attacking d00g like your headmaster of q2 fucking world. plz, fof already. your just a piece of shit in this
resor	2006-12-23 21:02
	changing nick to fakenick not allow you to use cheats! some of you better think before you write, if he play with fakenick will be more wise. dug did mistake and imo he should suffer for that. everybody who use cheats should be punished without excouse.
_siwy_	2006-12-23 20:57
	it jumps and shoots rather weirdly it looks very crapy gg frq2 +)) ;p
Putka	2006-12-23 20:00
	Bla bla wision....
eon	2006-12-23 19:53
	ha ha ha antifa ! ;], i knew it
wision	2006-12-23 19:28
	i don't think that r1ch would do something like that (throw away months/years of work for couple of bucks..) zorre the thing is that he used it in public server with his own nick without telling anyone (sorry but i'm not buying that putka knew that...).. so how can you be sure it was first/last time he did that?
escape	2006-12-23 19:01
	Hey ive never posted before but.. if this guy can go onto web find a wh, install, set up, play with it in one night then we have no REAL proof hes using it just think of what someone with the pure intent to cheat and not get caught and win things can achieve. werent some of the coders of the current anticheat bot users at some stage if i remember right.. if they can code an anticheat they can code cheats conspiricy theory: someone who wants to cheat and not get caught pays them a bit of cash and they get cheats direct from ppl making anticheat? with the old frank cheats it was all inside q2, if this can be done an invisable cheat mod would be easy to create, meaning usable on lans also with people watchin, ppl can look through q2 with no options etc.. those are just my thoughts, tbh > its all a load of bilbo baggins, happy xmas btw
zorre	2006-12-23 17:54
	I dont see the problem. Yeah he did use WH that night, whatever? He admitt it. I think that you need to have tryed it to really can be able to accuse someone. I know me and my brother Slonken got a copy of that FRK client years ago to see how it was. We recorded the games to watch afterwards so that we could compare to other demos. Thoe we didnt explore this on a internet server, it was on our private lan. And I wouldnt mind playing someone who use cheat, if Im just aware of it before the matches start. I would´nt flame anyone who uploaded a demo on DS wich was played with a cheat if he/she say he/she do in the demo info.
Dimmo	2006-12-23 17:28
	i suppose we will see compulsory anticheat in following q2scene leagues
warlock.	2006-12-23 17:09
	what is talk about ? you were playing with other people (they knew about your CHEATING=testing ?) if not its fking lame. anyway any warfare related to all kinds of cheating should be exterminated
dx.hr	2006-12-23 15:34
	executer, you are cute
Putka	2006-12-23 14:36
	whats up wis )) I thought u were angry a bit
wision	2006-12-23 14:28
	"I was just denying every wision word to make him more angry" didn't go so well.. but sure.. ppl can still make up some new excuses as we can see in this thread.
Putka	2006-12-23 14:03
	exe: yes, sure look at putka's first posts i will not paste them i think Putka got balls and he will not delete/edit them. to defend some stupid cheater. You are god. You know everything, just tell me a date with hour when im going to die so i prepare myself Im trying to say you are wrong. He told me before you saw this demo here. I was just denying every wision word to make him more angry And i would do same as dugg did in this demo. I would check if somebody is hidding there.
dud4	2006-12-23 13:48
	Almost forgot to rate this really exciting 3v2!
Muerte	2006-12-23 13:31
	part of my post censored wtf komunists
eXecutor	2006-12-23 13:27
	"i dont know why u all blame plus of cheating .. couse i tried once (testing server protection,which is very good protected ,right hazord ?,even i informed putka about it) , now u blame whole plus just couse of that try of mine ..." yes, sure look at putka's first posts i will not paste them i think Putka got balls and he will not delete/edit them. to defend some stupid cheater. call me a stupid but i think he didn't knew about it? wision has educated him with good dugah's (c) log and then he could talk with you and knew about "testing shit" [ but first he saw demo, and talk some shit "there is no cheat" blabla ] wich i don't belive really and don't say you told him about all "testing" and i would like to see your demos from cb insta where you have better stats then necro [the only 1 ppl who know how to play in + ] in couple maps
dud4	2006-12-23 13:27
	install cs....
careem	2006-12-23 13:20
	eon got ping raped
necro	2006-12-23 12:56
	eon, i would like to have you insted of watchdog. you sound like you could terrify those kids in front of my house
arch^	2006-12-23 12:35
	eon is gay
dug-	2006-12-23 12:27
	eon .. u are just soo weaaaaaakk careem .. jea for example
eon	2006-12-23 12:19
	dug and add that im a polish jew or something and that ll be all i think what interesting u can say , dont ever call me a gay u stupid kid from slovenia, i hate fags and im smahing them, so get lost, go and "test" some cheats, maybe u ll feel better
careem	2006-12-23 11:26
	eh dug pussy ok i can tell u some pole cheaters: Ag3, Abc, R1cky, extreme... Are u all happy now?
dug-	2006-12-23 11:22
	haha eon dildashica ... go play with your violet dildo that u recived from your boyfriend for christmas ...
eon	2006-12-23 11:17
	haha dugah cheater, maybe you ll tell us name's of this "polish} players, pls do that for us, another moron who has got complex?, i would like to know their names, or maybe u are another Apkis, what is wrong must be from Poland , stupid balkanian moron and cheater
dx.hr	2006-12-23 09:21
	dug come back!
dug-	2006-12-23 09:21
	p.s .. S R B I J A !!!!!!!!!! respect
dug-	2006-12-23 09:20
	jes sl u are understantable monkey ..more exactly - CHITA ! and jes that word goes for those ppl who have so much to tell about against me ... and my haxing ! rofl wunderrrbarrrr ... nikola razjebi ovu gajbu (a sentence from - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8...63790479806285+)
`sl	2006-12-23 09:13
	i'm very happy you're not in our clan anymore playing with "understandable monkeys with no brain" who can actually play without cheats. i wonder what you are since u need cheats and evolved from a monkey too ...
Gerdt	2006-12-23 08:59
	That's the only right thing to do, soldier.
careem	2006-12-23 08:58
	bah dug that was useless, we like u man
dug-	2006-12-23 08:53
	i am just happy sl couse i really realise what retard are u in real life ... first of all read the comments which were written before .. and u didnt removed me .. i talked with putka and i decided to move myself out,partly couse i dont wanna be on same chanell with some retard like u are ... i dont know why u all blame plus of cheating .. couse i tried once (testing server protection,which is very good protected ,right hazord ?,even i informed putka about it) , now u blame whole plus just couse of that try of mine ... well i dont care what u call me ... haxor,cheater,or whatever u want ... i already said i do it with purpouse and not with indend to use the cheats .. ffs ... read comments !!! anyway .. i hope sl is happy now ... and my appologise to plus clan if i puted them in ugly situation just couse of me ... and my tryout i already removed myself from CB and i wont be participing in leagues anymore since u all are acting like some understantable monkey with no brains ... wish u all gl !
xed	2006-12-23 08:49
	Nice perm!
careem	2006-12-23 08:41
	dug is now more known as purri =P
floyd	2006-12-23 08:28
	Dugah :/
`sl	2006-12-23 08:28
	cheater removed from #plus.q2 and all leagues he participated in.thank you for your cooperation in a new drill "catch the cheater". gl
Putka	2006-12-23 08:15
	U guys didnt read about whole situation...
kubi	2006-12-23 08:08
	fucking cheater
`sl	2006-12-23 08:05
	well i watched him manny times on servers during pcw's and random games and this guy really got some "skills" during last few months and nobody bellieved me .... now you have some proofs and if he's not kicked of out the clan today i'll leave. it won't be a heavy loss for the clan but other ppl will see i still care for community to be "clean of cheats". greetz
warlock.	2006-12-23 07:51
	ye lets all test some wh/aim shits on servers - its just a test ... so ? you should be banned with no mercy
Putka	2006-12-23 07:35
	Exe: its a difference when u try to test something to see what the hell is working of it versus riki who didnt say anything and he tried to hide that from anybody. Normaly, he would said that he had gg and it was working like wh. But no, he didnt say that he even used that to play. Only good thing he did was that he proved he used that gg.
Vader	2006-12-23 07:13
	xa xa xa dug cheater!
Muerte	2006-12-23 06:57
	khm my poland is worst then my engris #edl.q2 25.11.2006 <kicia> wassap? <kolt> zlapali abc na czitach LD <kolt> <kicia> ???D?D?D?DD <kolt> slabo? <kicia> <kolt> w edc.q2 <kicia> LOL :> <kolt> mial na dysku jakies pliki potrzebne do uzywania wh censored what is wh in poland language? and dug witch version now working? at least we can send to rich to improve anticheat
Durklas	2006-12-23 06:37
	yeh, wallhack that is , 6:15min .... shows everything ... look and think man. where ever he shots, it's before he sees enemy...
eXecutor	2006-12-23 06:33
	"1. server was 87.117.224.208:27910" that server isnt even close to good protected server, anticheat module is disabled there so you can even play with some shity OLD wh or even with frkq2 good server [ well protected ] is that with force anticheat.dll with r1q2/aprq2 or egl. "2. and no i am not a bitch and i wont name them,so they wont be banned like u are planing to do to me ... try to catch them by yourself ." i don't have time to do that, but if they do that often they will get busted soon. "and jea ... from now on i will be hunting players .. record them and if i cought anyone cheating .. u will ban them too,u better pray i wont catch them much since i have few potential targets." i will pray for You and Your mission really.. i got hope You will catch them all, and if they will be from Poland i can assure You they will be kickbanned.
CsLq2	2006-12-23 06:27
	dug, just 3 simple questions: 1) why you've played with your REAL nick testing wh? 2) even if you've played with real nick - i don't mind why you didn't post this demo with your comments (except nick - acceptable) to DS, like Gerdt did? it would have been useful for whole q2 community... 3) why u say you'd be a bitch if you will unveil some cheaters? the only bitches are cheaters. P.S. Never ever tried cheats for multiplayer games. Q2 is the only game i play at this moment, and the only reason is - it's interesting to became better. Cheats kill pvp games.
maq	2006-12-23 05:55
	"and jea ... from now on i will be hunting players .. record them and if i cought anyone cheating .. u will ban them too,u better pray i wont catch them much since i have few potential targets." scary
slow	2006-12-23 05:31
	where do you play those insta battles? ME wanna join!
dug-	2006-12-23 05:27
	exe rofL ! ... you are funny guy .. 1. server was 87.117.224.208:27910 2. and no i am not a bitch and i wont name them,so they wont be banned like u are planing to do to me ... try to catch them by yourself . and jea ... from now on i will be hunting players .. record them and if i cought anyone cheating .. u will ban them too,u better pray i wont catch them much since i have few potential targets.
nrk	2006-12-23 05:16
	Finally hes BusteD
eXecutor	2006-12-23 05:15
	"exe i think they should ban whole BOD clan .. if we are talking about cheats here ..." why? we never cheated, riki didn't turn off gg, and he gott banned at eq2l, plq2 and he can't played league for couple months. "just couse i tried some shitty wh once for fun ... i deserve ban from leagues .." yes, playing with your nick on cheats, its sooo wweeeeeeaaakkkk "i reapet : i am sure 90% of all players tried cheats .. even you did emo (if u deny you are lier)" yes i tryed, but never with my nick, only some wh-test, cheater or others. and not only for "see how it works" only for "see if that works" and if it work, msg to some guy like ieno/r1ch to block it. 2 questions more is that server where you played was anticheat protected? paste ip here. do you have all demos from cb games ? i bet you will be banned anyway amon and others will do what they have to do.. [ riki got caught with radeons and gg bug, and he have to upload demo even if it was ~3 years ago ] so you with your wh shit will have to do same. even if you do some test i just can belive how stupid you are, testing cheats with YOUR NICK "kinda 50:50 if two players cheats(i dont wanna named them) but they are polish ... anyway .. i saw few ppl playing on some server .." (c) dug cool, just name them, paste demo here and i will assure You they will be kicked from leagues and banned. unless You just talk shit, or they are your friends.. i bet you will not paste theyr names here..
dug-	2006-12-23 05:01
	exe i think they should ban whole BOD clan .. if we are talking about cheats here ... just couse i tried some shitty wh once for fun ... i deserve ban from leagues .. ban on whole servers in europe and stop me playing q2 too right ? just couse of that night,where i tried to see how it looks like ... pls ... why are u making so complicate all this ? i reapet : i am sure 90% of all players tried cheats .. even you did (if u deny you are lier) but anyway do what u want ... i cant stand a fact that some "ex-cheaters" which used or tried cheating are blaming me now for this once game with wh ... read the story i wrote what was the point of whole this situation ... and if u still dont get it ... i feel sorry for that
eXecutor	2006-12-23 03:58
	first off all wh is obvious and thats fact is that server where they played anticheat protected ? paste ip here plz. read Digital post server without anticheat module is usless like mhs and other where you can connect with frkq2 and other shit, even r1q2 is usless on that servers.. well protected server is with anticheat module like in *.pl 217.8.180.90:27911 if you downloaded cheat from mpc, i think server where you played was without anticheat module, so r1q2 or anticheatl.dll was usless [ anticheat.dll don't work at normal server, only with anticheat protected server ] "kinda 50:50 if two players cheats(i dont wanna named them) but they are polish ... anyway .. i saw few ppl playing on some server .." (c) dug cool, just name them, paste demo here and i will assure You they will be kicked from leagues and banned. unless You just talk shit, or they are your friends.. i bet you will not paste theyr names here.. next we all now there will be no 100% anticheat, but r1q2 with anticheat protected servers [ 5% of all server or maybe not ? all good server like mhs, telenet and others don't have it ] is 99% for me, r1ch blocked so much wh's, zbots and others.. couple months ago we caught wallhacker in poland, he got some shity wh from q3 [ he worked with q2 too ] r1ch blocked it in 2mins, just msg to him, and its done.. thats why r1q2/aprq2 with anticheat pwns, nc, q2ace and others suck. next if somone do some test, should have name "wh_shit_test" or "ban_me_plz" i don't belive to You really.. so i propose ban dug from cb insta, and other leagues , unless You have all demos from your games but who would like to watch them.. sorry for me english thats why we should update server with anticheat module.. like we do in Poland, we don't have actions here with stupid frkq2 kids, and if someone got some new cheat from other game, its blocked after couple mins, when we msg to R1ch..
APKIS	2006-12-23 03:47
	"- at ~6:15: when he tries to shoot the guy who hides at the mega-entrance of the lift." Use whatever command you want, the shadow can be seen only after his "I AM THE BEST PLAYER" shoot. (Shadow appears in the middle of that ramp entrancing to chain area. After few moments of moving down from the middle real player's skin appears) In conclusion: maybe he feels where is the enemy?
resor	2006-12-23 00:50
	hmm didn't see aimbot style. however cheats are and will be... in every game on this world first must be cheat to block it after. i've used for one night cheats in counterstrike 3 years a go, couse i just wonder how it works. i think using cheats for fun its stupid idea, unless everybody are informed about it. every client like nocheat or r1q2 should be updated instantly after cheat are developed. it will not block oportunity to make cheats but it could block existing hax. i've never use cheat in q2 and never will.
MG!	2006-12-23 00:49
	Eh dugach Chiter!its OLD
drowsy	2006-12-22 22:29
	im sad =[ i always play with r1q2. But its obvious you can cheat with r1q2 =[ Quake2 is a great game but cheaters are just ruining it for the others... i also dont get it, what is the fun of cheating????
Ramses	2006-12-22 20:00
	Muerte
careem	2006-12-22 19:29
	nice engris for old man
Muerte	2006-12-22 19:10
	http://muerteq2.googlepages.com/dugmastah.zip This kind of prediction can have only top player and dug is already beat delita so... gg dug
Foen	2006-12-22 18:59
	ehm... you specced cheaters and you won't tell who cheated? are you a moron or are you just covering your cheater friends? ...i would go with a first one.
zdufs	2006-12-22 18:45
	mami
Putka	2006-12-22 18:29
	i just many times experienced strange things on siol/hthinet , like : -some noname guys , who can't jump to mega , but alltime got 50 rg and 25+ chain .D strange that i cant connect to hinet with my r1 , but some dumbs can with that 'frq2' or wtf.. That could have been zdufs
careem	2006-12-22 18:15
	haha zdufs - dug watched -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yw541Q4l3M before he set wallhack
zdufs	2006-12-22 18:10
	putka was owned and dugah is bobo lover so
dug-	2006-12-22 18:02
	basshunter hax rox magnet rocket like in mortal combat
careem	2006-12-22 18:00
	A random insta pickup where in my (and other people's) opinion Dugah (from clan plus) is using a wallhack and possibly other cheats. (c) Gerdt we all are using basshunter hax [speed hack, mega aim hack, wallhack, respawn hacks,..], rl is magnet rocket like in mortal combat - rocket from smoke.
dud4	2006-12-22 17:42
	Well Careem who talked about them? i dont understand u... i just many times experienced strange things on siol/hthinet , like : -some noname guys , who can't jump to mega , but alltime got 50 rg and 25+ chain .D strange that i cant connect to hinet with my r1 , but some dumbs can with that 'frq2' or wtf..
H4ZORD	2006-12-22 17:39
	you was cheating against me on my own server what a nerve
Putka	2006-12-22 17:37
	Careem: count me in
careem	2006-12-22 17:27
	"50% of balkan are chiters asses" (c)duda Hah i agree! i think "malta" team necro dx avis and frenzy are cheaters!
Digital	2006-12-22 17:27
	I cba even to watch the demo as the person in question admitted cheating. But I would like to comment on the fact that most of you people don't seem to realise how this R1Q2/anticheat work. It does dick just as is aka you got no anticheat just by installing the module and playing on some server with "anticheat" that is practically off. Serveradmin would need to do a tad extra to make it anything better than normal server/plain R1Q2...
Ramses	2006-12-22 17:20
	Well but he admited that ! RAPE "HER"
Putka	2006-12-22 17:18
	See, even those who had already seen similar shots can say its not a cheat That is just telling us how hard it is to prove a cheat.
Ramses	2006-12-22 17:17
	kinda 50:50 if two players cheats(i dont wanna named them) but they are polish ... (let say: scooby?) C`mon "big mouth" name them all ! pussy
MasterT	2006-12-22 17:16
	Hehe.. imo too much missed shots so there is no aimbot, but its looks like he uses wh :p I have played railarena couple times.. you can be good on it if you have good rg accuracy + well sound knowledge/strategy(and if you play a lot with one enemy you also can know where he hides most of times, so you can be more smart with that). I have cuted some shots from my rail arena demos where it looks like wh(cause it was server with players id: ON) and bot even more than from this demo(cause it was good pings to me), but I can asure that it was some nice accuracy(maybe part of skill) and luck, cause I play with anticheat(NoCheat or r1q2) everytime. (if will be request of it I can upload and show that shots). So... Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.
dug-	2006-12-22 17:11
	true .. i was talking with putka over msn about the situation .. and i told him i was going to test if wh works .. (i managed).. i played 2,3 games and than spaming on msn to putka .. LoLz .. and i said on irc later to gerdt i admited that i played only that night,(why should i deny?) .. anyway putka knew, ... and like wision said on msn to me also: why u didnt tell to players on server that u are using wh .. i could do that.. they would or ignore me .. and not belive me till we would play .. they would all be sure that server is anticheat protected and laugh their asses out to me .. and as i already played with wh .. nobody complained .. (even with my game which was obvious,as u can see the point- if i would be a chiter .. using wh, i would be more unrecogniseble .. right ? .. well ask those players who are using wh for ages .. anyway i admit i was so stupid to even try that .. but waw is it wrong to try ? .. as i said .. i bet 90% of q2 players tryed cheats .. for the end ... wh sux ( as u saw on my moving - rofl lame .. u only see players troug out shiny walls which are anoying and u cant see a shit .. also why my aim so rofl lame on wh .. tnx slonken) so pls .. if u would sit beside me that night u would knew the whole story ..
wision	2006-12-22 17:05
	too bad.. that's the sound of nobody giving a shit..
Putka	2006-12-22 17:04
	sorry i cant. im just reading it
wision	2006-12-22 17:02
	i see... i thought we (me and gator) were clear about that how r1ch's anticheat works, but looks like you didn't understand us, so if you don't know how it works stfu then putka can you hear that?
Putka	2006-12-22 17:00
	weird that you didn't know that 30 mins ago... //weird that u didnt know he told me about it, before he was going to test this
dug-	2006-12-22 16:54
	well at least i proved something .. there is NO ANTIcheat client .. well the story was ...usually when i play, and when i start suspecting someone using cheats,wh or bot .. i disc..reconenct with fake nick and record him .. and then i watch the demo .. that night i dl-ed this wh from mpc download.com ... watched few demos .. kinda 50:50 if two players cheats(i dont wanna named them) but they are polish ... anyway .. i saw few ppl playing on some server .. tried to connect with r1q2 using wh on it .. and i made it .. beside .. i have updated the r1q2 client .. and also anticheat.dll and everything what i got from r1ch.net .. played 2,3 games .. well as u saw .. i was playing really suspicios .. but nobody asked .. eii u are using wh !! .. or smtn .. i would confirm my answer with jes! .. tbh .. i dont cheat .. and i will still be some avarage player .. well i know a lots of good players used cheats or tryed them (let say: scooby?) ,jea in that days there was some ghay ace client or nocheat or even havent been any client .. but now here is r1q2 .. and u all are SO SURE that client is so save and nobody cant cheat .. well wrong ! there was also some discosion about server update (familiar like tastyspellen server has) so we will be for sure .. that nobody is using haxes .. anyway .. you are all more than welcome to obs me .. or record me . or whatever u want,t o prove me that i cheat, (hmm .. now i might became a star with 12 ppl obsing me thinking that i am l337 like purri ) nah .. but like i said .. be my guests
wision	2006-12-22 16:52
	weird that you didn't know that 30 mins ago...
Putka	2006-12-22 16:47
	Because there is no cheat //dug admitted on irc that he was using wallhack.. got it now? I know that already...anything else ?
wision	2006-12-22 16:44
	Because there is no cheat //dug admitted on irc that he was using wallhack.. got it now?
Putka	2006-12-22 16:29
	putka probably didn't read my comment :< //thats a random reflex shot
wision	2006-12-22 16:26
	putka probably didn't read my comment :<
slonken	2006-12-22 16:22
	i hit what i wanna hit hoe!
Putka	2006-12-22 16:21
	slok: LOL, he can't even hit with cheat! Because there is no cheat
dx.hr	2006-12-22 16:17
	nice game pls more demos from this great player!
Putka	2006-12-22 16:16
	Most obvious moments imo: - at ~6:15: when he tries to shoot the guy who hides at the mega-entrance of the lift. //i could hear a sound coming from mega so i would do the same - at ~3:10: when he fights with the guy who was at upper RL/cells, it's obvious he's chasing him through the wall. //its obvious that guy is there since your team mate is still shoting on him.
spil^`^	2006-12-22 16:06
	gg.
Delita	2006-12-22 16:06
	slonken: LOL, he can't even hit with cheat! nether can u without your ping.
slonken	2006-12-22 16:03
	LOL, he can't even hit with cheat!
BubkeZ	2006-12-22 15:48
	So?, let him cheat, as long as they are not in the top its useless :E
dud4	2006-12-22 15:12
	50% of balkan are chiters asses edit: delita, thoose rails from 130+fov were strange in that demo, but i though an insta only player can do this..
Delita	2006-12-22 15:10
	I guess this justifies that demo he posted against me... mwhahahahahah!
wision	2006-12-22 14:52
	pfffff... 22/12/06\|20:48.01 ( DUGAH ) jea was fun playing that night with wally .. played 2,3 games rofl my ass out ))))))))) i liked the shot at ~1:15
maq	2006-12-22 14:47
	even for rg only game where lots of prediction-shots r made this is too much.Aiming through wall = not skill.Wh for sure.
Gravgon	2006-12-22 14:45
	Most obvious moments imo: - at ~6:15: when he tries to shoot the guy who hides at the mega-entrance of the lift. - at ~3:10: when he fights with the guy who was at upper RL/cells, it's obvious he's chasing him through the wall.

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