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PLAYOFFS!

2009-11-29 20:18 | *rl*

Welcome to the first round of edge #1 playoffs!!! After many battles in the groupstage, this fantastic league finally reached to the playoffs. First of all, you have to remember that this is a single elimination! Second of all, please schedule/play your games as soon as it's possible (winner MUST take screens and send them to admin after the match). Also, IF someone do not want to play in the league anymore, please just tell us now, cause we don't want any situations like in the groupstage (delita, careem etc). And one more thing. We decided to change bo5 to bo3.

Matches in 1/8:

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PURRI vs

aGent

maq vs

Jol

Aone vs

Pogo

DM vs

thaigo

Damiah []

rul

sArge []

zorre

Assasin [] flag

kolt

gerppa vs

irvin

The deadline for these matches is Sunday 06/12/2009 @ 21:00 CET.

GoOoOoD LuUucK AnD HaVe FuN !

Comments

eu^	2009-12-08 01:25
	naked truth!!
careem	2009-12-07 21:01
	hooray, nonsense comment there eu
eu^	2009-12-05 15:17
	careem don't be sad dude.... you allways get free advertising I think your name is the most mentioned name in q2scene. Edited: 2009-12-05 15:21
eu^	2009-12-05 15:14
	we ALL see the same thing.. The game was "fixed". The problem is that nobody can do anything about it. In fact ..,how can anybody bring forward proof in this kind of 'set up' ?!?!? and..ah.. , why is that every time you ppl open a topic.., we allways end up arguing about admins??!?!? fait.., i guess
Cheimera	2009-12-05 07:51
	ok so all admins are corrupt or whatever and we are only admins to help ourselfs and our country mates and put down all the time doing these leagues for you etc only to gain something ourselfs. We made an invitational duel league with even prize money and netiher one of us played, so what did we gain there? you just got to be retarded muerte seriously.
wision	2009-12-05 04:59
	did you see me helping czech/slovakian players in any league muerte?
Muerte	2009-12-05 02:30
	Cheimera 2009-12-03 11:40: "And ofc kolt and sarge will help each other, they are from the same country, this is not a wierd thing in any sports event." as EDL admin u agree to solution where goat, maq and fasadin use same tactic to kickout wision from group A EDL and fiz, Jol and ads kickout again isbjorn from group B... they r from same country too dont take anything personal Cheimera i know its hard for you gr/fin origin live in se work in no, even u don't know where u belong next time don't be pr to other admins ofc they will help players from own country/team (why they become admins in 1st place) but they just smarter then you and wont admit in public like you did
Cheimera	2009-12-04 11:15
	and muerte i dont have anything to do with edge league ty. And if someone wants to loose on purpouse, what the fuck do you want admins to do about it? I loose all my duels on purpous except duel5, wanna bann me? kick me as an admin? np muerte like we have said thousands of time to you, if you have a problem with admins as you always have why the fuck do you not just complain to wision? And absolutly get someone to replace me and i will happily be one of you guys just whining about everything, sounds alot more easier to me
arch^	2009-12-04 01:40
	ALL STFU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Muerte	2009-12-04 00:54
	@CAREEM you should write on ESR this comments with official q2scene admin statement: Cheimera 2009-12-03 11:40: "And ofc kolt and sarge will help each other, they are from the same country, this is not a wierd thing in any sports event." ES/QL scene should be warned what kind of ppl r left on q2scene and moving to QL when official admin proclaiming things like this = it's end of fair play especially in light of latest discovery: r1q2 anticheat always had big hole and still have..
lux0r	2009-12-03 16:28
	word on Cheimera... this argue is pointless imo... you can't blame someone for not trying to hard when he even didn't need to win this... the situation for covell didn't developed in his favor and that's it... he lost from kolt so kolt deserve playoffs...
Cheimera	2009-12-03 05:40
	Seriously, i am defending Sarge and kolt on this one though, after some thinking. If you cant get to the playoffs by yourself and you really have to rely on others to get you there then you shouldent even be there. And ofc kolt and sarge will help each other, they are from the same country, this is not a wierd thing in any sports event. Who are you to blame them? Blame yourself cause you werent good enough to get your ass to the playoffs by yourself. simple as that.
careem	2009-12-02 19:32
	I personally would kick rl from the admin team. Why did mention me and delita in news and made a bad impression on my name? fuck you rl, and start to write proper news... Wanted to post this on ESR, but noway this is going there now.. I left last game true, I had quit the last match the last minute and a half and now u have to write shit about me? Seriously kiddo fuck off.
aGent	2009-12-02 17:17
	ye covell is stronher than kolt and thats why he lost to him 2:0 ))
Gip5y	2009-12-02 12:07
	Agree with babycake that covell is stronger than kolt and match vs assasin would be more interesting if covell had advanced to playoffs.
rul	2009-12-02 11:56
	CSI: THE EDGE, SEASON ONE
wision	2009-12-02 08:35
	babycake: hbq-v3 match wasn't set up.. exe: was fun for me.. you couldn't expect me to talk seriously since you said couple of ugly things :<
babycake	2009-12-02 08:16
	Didn't read this1 before but never the less... +1 to Muerte for "i could only imagine what would happen if sarge and kolt r from russia they would be banned for live" (only it should be 'were' instead of 'r' - the point becomes unclear, Aone was the first to not get it)
babycake	2009-12-02 08:05
	+1 vote for Muerte = suckup. I guess smart, logical ... but just can't stop licking certain asses. +1 vote that match is a set up. I respect both players, but it's sad that game wasn't completely fair. Though it's their right to 'fix' this game. +1 vote for eXecutor's statement on HBQ - v3 game and 'giving points'. Can't believe it was another setup, but kinda impolite anyway... +1 vote on CoVell should be in the final stage. Really pitty that due to an unplayed game and a set-up match he didn't pass. His strong and very entertaining gameplay should be represented in the playoffs... Maybe cov vs thg could be played? It would be a nice way to kick kolt back where he belongs. No offence kolt really, but despite your fancy win over CoVell I still think he is better PS: No CoV - Assasin goes to 1/4, Yes CoV - Assasins won't pass Edited: 2009-12-02 08:08
Aone	2009-12-02 07:47
	muerto u are f.... retard, russofob galimij
sArge	2009-12-02 05:55
	@Muerte do u record every match I am playing ? u r some kind of stalker, u know? I'm scared ... what will be next? video while I'm under the shower? I remember the situation when I touched the lift just before the match has started, and u know what? I was the one who spawned next to it so ... I just forget not to touch anything : but kolt got ssg spawn as I remember (or box and he went for ssg) so he didnt even wanted to use that lift, but maybe now, when I broke an edge rule I will get banned? that what u want Muerte aka thg's ass licker? gtfo about the purri pre-league match, what is so weird about it? I dont understand u, am I not allowed to play some friendly matches with players that take part in the same league? I dont know what your piont is :E and begging/crying are not the right words Edited: 2009-12-02 05:57
Jou	2009-12-02 04:42
	Wow, there was a lot of statements mrt.. I wont go in on those.. Still I feel that these are the kind of things that ruins the q2scene, people always helps their "own" - In every sport. It's just sad that this q2scene is rapidly becoming a flamers' battlefield instead of the battle on the servers. The leagues keeps getting smaller, and I've seen more controversial situations (flaming) between admins and participants this year than any year for example in eq2l (which is strange because the eq2l is the smallest eq2l ever). So the last titans of this game will probably just fade away. I'm not even sure there will be another eq2l, It'll fade away like CB did I think. Well have fun, we have three leagues rolling and I hope we can end each one of them.
Muerte	2009-12-02 04:05
	when i read messages from sarge im impress with size of his personality/skill but as i remember sarge is ordinary slimy weasel who came a few days before the official duel and started to beg purri to play training match although purri repeatedly declined, sarge has not stopped cry/beg while purri not agreed to play ofc purri raped sarge izi http://www.sendspace.com/file/pamxn7 and purri couldn't care less for server choice or gameplay vs crybaby sarge sarge 'star' will "shine" just till match vs zorre, after he will go in slimy darkness where is come from and where he belong but even if won't admit fraud in game vs kolt. sarge couldn't not show how respect league rules: http://www.sendspace.com/file/1129le 6.5 During countdown, players may not touch buttons/lifts to change the state of the map at start. This rule does not apply on OpenTDM servers. ofc admin on that match rl aka veed aka poland uber alles didn't notice any fault from player from poland why would he: go poland (c)veed even head admin Gerdt didn't notice anything why would he: his own clan break same rule to win in halffinal euroq2l #10 http://q2scene.net/euroq2l/index.php?op=descr&id=64517 anyone who watch football know how football clubs fix scores in leagues: they wait until know all sores and then play same thing did sarge and kolt playing last match in group stage already knowing how many points kolt need to advance sad day for allmighty DS admin kolt showing he is willing to break any fair play to get to play one game in playoff pathetic... i could only imagine what would happen if sarge and kolt r from russia they would be banned for live so this is reality: admin helping players/clans to fix leagues play ndml don't help players/clans in edge. edl or euroq2l and this is how will be remember this 1st edge (copycat) q2scene league
sArge	2009-12-01 18:29
	@Cheimera its 2nd or 3rd time (dont remember exactly) when I started a conversation with him and same as now it was a long opinion exchange
Cheimera	2009-12-01 16:56
	sArge: it will never end! starting a conversation with thaigo is like never ending story! How the fuck do you know? arent you "new" to q2scene? or do i smell obsi aka umd situation? mr.SARGE! And veed: Also...Pogo, I'll give you a simple (I hope) exmaple...When Damiah is playing high rl it's smart/tactic but when...Assasin or whoever else, it's just lame/pathetic etc...Same here...I bet there would be no "case" if this match would be played in the 1st or 2nd round...Maybe he played a littlle bit less concentrated or not, but THAT'S HIS RIGHT... eeh ok one thing, we bitch as much about that as if Assasin does it, seriously this is not a "nations" thing pls pls drop that bullshit. Edited: 2009-12-01 16:59
Delita	2009-12-01 14:08
	Have you seen what you people have become?
eXecutor	2009-12-01 14:01
	wision of course not. you where weaker then v3 and i know it. but posting some shit about give some clan points to fuck us [ bod ] isnt fun. but its not my point. my point was what Muerte lick some ass hbq, scandi, wision etc, and he don't like guys from Poland. conlusion muerte is stupid guy/gay who watch only some scandi p0rn. cheers.
aGent	2009-12-01 12:24
	da ba de haha ure funny but nothing more
tosquey	2009-12-01 12:17
	@Delita I couldn't agree more.
da-be-da	2009-12-01 11:42
	eXecutor stop talking BS like "lame scandi" u dint even know where u are living... sarge - kolt game was obvious fixed,now what rules say about it i dont know. Maybe some answer from Gerdt to know what its gonna be,or is already decided!? @Delita:I've said it before and i'll say it again, winning a couple of random games in a tournament doesn't mean shit. there are no random games in a tournament,if u say friendly that something different @Dliita:If Purri wants to win this tournament, he will, with a click of his fingers. really!?whats the point of this tournament then!?specially after your "resign" there is noone to stop him,except u Edited: 2009-12-01 12:29
wision	2009-12-01 09:12
	exe, you don't think that we lost 2:1 on purpose.. do you
Delita	2009-12-01 07:43
	Do you think Sarge and Covell are better than Purri on DM1? Think real hard before answering this one. I've said it before and i'll say it again, winning a couple of random games in a tournament doesn't mean shit. If Purri wants to win this tournament, he will, with a click of his fingers.
kolt	2009-12-01 06:29
	eu: 43:2 for sarge was the 3rd map and as i stated i didnt give a shit about that after 1:1 score in maps
Jou	2009-12-01 06:24
	rl, scandinavia means the ridge of mountains between norway and Sweden and it has nothing to do with Finland, get your facts straight. Hehe, well rl: covell>sarge, sarge>purri, covell>purri. Who's got more wins? And this isn't whine, I'm just stating facts and having very fun doing that.
rl	2009-12-01 05:39
	@jou 1. it is 2. sarge won purri 2-0, so that means he has a better chance to win this tour.? this is the type of bullshit thinking i would say... ...and now just move your whines here: http://q2scene.net/edge/index.php?op=descr&id=65808
Jou	2009-12-01 05:23
	Exe, just one question, when has the Baltic (Estland) become Scandi? And one more thing, Finland isn't even scandi. Edited: 2009-12-01 05:24
eXecutor	2009-12-01 05:16
	rofl lol @Muerte scandi wanna be Muerte avatar 2009-11-30 16:00 i start to like HBQ they are man's of the words [26.11.09.\| 01:24:44] [@wision]: i think hbq will give some points to v3 [26.11.09.\| 01:24:52] [@wision]: if not one or two.. then three [26.11.09.\| 01:25:16] [@wision]: so bod-v3 could become useless match so my congratz goes to HBQ and that its OK but if one guy from Poland won with another 2-1 then its shame, lame, cheaters etc! rofl lol becouse some scandi lame didnt get to playoffs. just stfu he lose with kolt. so whats the problem..? och i know.. its all becouse of nationality. Edited: 2009-12-01 05:20
sArge	2009-12-01 05:00
	eu^ look at the results of maq vs sovander or sovander vs warrior or maq vs irvin (and its only group B, I'm sure common results r in matches from other gropus as well, if u want - check it)
Jou	2009-12-01 04:21
	I would have hoped covell to get to the playoffs, by winning sarge and purri in the group stage he showed that he could win the league, too. Sad if this went this way, but still, Covell should have won kolt in their game and there wouldn't be a discussion like this.
eu^	2009-12-01 02:13
	cross my heart and hope to die.... if sarge want's a frag..he get's it. am i the only one who sees it?? 1. 43 to 2 for sarge 2. 9 to 24 for kolt with sarge runing away from kolt. yeeea very GG
sheFF	2009-12-01 01:18
	thg you can try and try to proof something, but to be honest you won't found any proof, because there isnt any, so wouldnt be better if you stop blame them about unfair playing ? it is so pointless
thaigo	2009-11-30 23:13
	Yeah, what about it? What does it have to do with you fixing the score beforehand on your game?
sArge	2009-11-30 18:49
	unfair playing? look at da-be-da's comment ^^
thaigo	2009-11-30 18:04
	Agent&sheff, you seem to be missing the point here. It's about deciding the score beforehand so that it's most suitable for both. Without this incident, I wouldn't care if it was covell or kolt who advances. I just don't want anyone to advance with unfair game.
sheFF	2009-11-30 17:38
	exactly agent :> if covell won against kolt he would advance to the next stage , i dont know why you all cry about him =] kolt won and he deserved more than covell
aGent	2009-11-30 17:26
	whats the problem , kolt also beat covell 2:0 so everything is totally fair guys ... he showed that he is better than covell anyway ... also if covell and thg had some big problems with playing 2/3 MAPS than its their problem ... Edited: 2009-11-30 17:30
thaigo	2009-11-30 17:22
	Sarge just confirmed that he is a retard. He cannot read. For the others who can read: Noone has said anything about 2-1 win not being allowed. The way it happened to go 2-1 in the other hand is imho not allowed and I consider it as a not fair game. da-be-da, maybe covell should have played on sunday when it was scheduled instead of "I don't want to". I did ask him to play then. Without Wizards server we would had to play with 70 pings, so that's why I wanted to wait for Wizards server to come back online and now it is.
kolt	2009-11-30 15:53
	yes i didnt care about 3rd map when the score was 1:1 and its my right to do that - just like thg did when he was playin purri on 2nd map (check thaigo vs purri scores) i watched both demos from 2nd map vs sarge (mine and sarge's) and u telling me i cant win him with good cg spawn and good start - nice i have won isbjorn fiz and covell so maybe im capable of winning from time to time?
sArge	2009-11-30 15:37
	so I wasnt allowed to win 2:1 yes?
Muerte	2009-11-30 15:26
	[MVD] Gerdt: hmm he's giving kolt a point ? : [MVD] thg: looks like it [MVD] [Wizard]gerppa: yep probably two.. [MVD] Aone: so [MVD] thg: one is enough [MVD] [Wizard]gerppa: ah sArge was cut in half by kolt's chaingun [MVD] Aone: covel will take 5th place? [MVD] thg: if kolt wins this map, then yes [MVD] Gerdt: ye [MVD] [Wizard]gerppa: yeh [MVD] mrt: since kolt won covell [MVD] Aone: lol [MVD] n00k1e: wtf (veed): 25 osob na gtv oglada kolta loloololo [MVD] thg: i can guess this will end 2-1 for sarge, that way sarge beats me and kolt will be 4th kinda 'like' way how Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band try to move discussion to another direction shameless play (sarge pov) http://www.sendspace.com/file/adccac
da-be-da	2009-11-30 15:23
	now its too late thaigo i was in irc almost whole week,and covell ask u to play number of times,and u was bitching about some wizard server,he even agreed to play home/away and u dint answer him,and now talk about some shoulder,damn man u r playing with wrist not shoulder... i dont want to be a person to judge u but i think u r the reason why covell is not on the playoffs im sorry if i offend u,but im really frustrated with the whole situation,covell really deserved to be in the list,i dont know how he feels right now... we can just hope right now,someone to resign from the league and covell replace him Damiah is showing no interest in this league by his own words,im not forcing (and also i cant) noone to resign but like gerdt write,its better to quit now than ragequit in the middle of the game...
thaigo	2009-11-30 14:55
	My game vs covell scheduled 2 times. First time 18.11.09 or something, but I couldn't play then cause my shoulder was broken. Second time it was scheduled yesterday, but covell didn't want to play. So it was decided to be 0-0. Im fine with covell getting 3 points from me and I getting -1 point just so that those lame polaks dont get to playoffs by playing unfair game.
Gip5y	2009-11-30 14:31
	wtf? Where is covell? As i remember he was trying to play or schedule match vs Thaigo Edited: 2009-11-30 14:31
da-be-da	2009-11-30 14:29
	in thaigo - covell game both dint get any points,correct? so thaigo's fault covell not to be in the playoffs,if he was willing to play,then lose covell gets more points and everything fine!? dont know the rules.so im a right?
eu^	2009-11-30 14:23
	FIGHT!!
aGent	2009-11-30 14:04
	Btw => Purri - im coming for you !
aGent	2009-11-30 14:03
	thaigo u r so lame kolt is a good player capable of wining over sarge at one map for sure . Besides watch football time to time maybe u will understand more Edited: 2009-11-30 14:03
Delita	2009-11-30 12:06
	delita, careem etc). <--- Am I not aloud to quit Quake 2? You people make such a big deal over such little things.
Spam	2009-11-30 11:28
	thnx
wision	2009-11-30 10:40
	what gerppa said.
gerppa	2009-11-30 10:28
	he lost to DM and the game between those who are at same points matters so therefore DM = 2 zorre = 3.
Spam	2009-11-30 10:19
	2 stupid questions? why does zorre only have 5 played games? and why is he as #2 in his group facing another #2 from another group? or how do you count what possition players ends up on? (he got better eff, net, way less deaths and less defeats etc) then DM
rl	2009-11-30 10:07
	@ Pogo Yes. And I still can't see any proof that sarge didn't play fair. Ask him or w/e...It's just a storm in a glass of water imo. And Muerte is crying because he's a fanboy of scandis and hate everyone else...And there's no MY side of the argument, Pogo...Trust me, I don't give a shit who will play in the playoffs...Also, I don't need 100 assistants here, who are telling me who should be in or who should be out, so please keep such bs comments for yourself (Muerte, thaigo)... Also...Pogo, I'll give you a simple (I hope) exmaple...When Damiah is playing high rl it's smart/tactic but when...Assasin or whoever else, it's just lame/pathetic etc...Same here...I bet there would be no "case" if this match would be played in the 1st or 2nd round...Maybe he played a littlle bit less concentrated or not, but THAT'S HIS RIGHT... And pleeeeaaaase, stop with these "retards", "shitheads" etc...
sArge	2009-11-30 09:29
	it will never end! starting a conversation with thaigo is like never ending story!
sArge	2009-11-30 09:24
	thaigo, only retarded one here is u cause u cant blame me for losing a map, no matter how I played, u dont get it? everyone got their better and worse days/matches - for me it was that 2nd map ehh... your banning idea is just pathetic :\
kolt	2009-11-30 09:19
	nice conversation we have here i will wait till the end and write sth then
thaigo	2009-11-30 09:14
	How retarted are u sarge? I said I want a ban for u and kolt because of the way your game was played. 2-1 score is fine if both players had played that game normally. Now it was just preplanned 2-1 victory for u. Can u see the difference?
sArge	2009-11-30 09:09
	@thaigo 'Sarge, yes I knew the score before the match started and so did everyone else who know about the scores in group a.' so what's the big deal!? why does everyone argue NOW after the match, why no one has said anything about the consequences of winning it 2:1 ? dont get it ... but w8 ... WHAT consequences ? for winning? gg 'Hope u get banned here for this shit.' u want to ban me for winning 2:1 - that's the fact thaigo so dont even argue about it 'Noone is saying 2-1 winning is not allowed,' look above Edited: 2009-11-30 09:14
Pogo	2009-11-30 08:50
	I did not see the kolt-sarge game so i can't comment on that. However i CAN comment on rls absolutely ridiculous attempt at a comparison. You are comparing a 2:0 early on in the tournament with a 2:1 in the last groupstage match that enables both players to get to playoffs. And try to claim they are both equally possible to be fixed? And think that this comparison actually benefits YOUR side of the argument?
thaigo	2009-11-30 08:19
	Noone is saying 2-1 winning is not allowed, but the way how it ended up 2-1 is imo not fairplay and u should be punished for that. Just look at the demo, in second map it could have been hibru playing vs sarge and it would have been rape. Doesn't even look like u were playing at all. U made misstakes kolt took advantage of? ROFL on that!
sArge	2009-11-30 08:05
	banned for what ? for winning 2:1 FUCK sry guys I didnt know that 2:1 is not allowed :\ ehh so not only me should get banned imo u got some 'feelings' about that me vs kolt match ?:> but no proof and u want me to get banned so I got feelings that u cheat! ban thg mEgA rOfL @ u
thaigo	2009-11-30 07:31
	Ah, polish pingfeeler is on the run... Everybody watch out! Hope u get banned here for this shit.
sArge	2009-11-30 06:55
	yes I know that everyone was SO FREAKING sure about that 2:1 result, but its just a coincidence, ehh again poles = bad ppl some ppl just cant sit on their ass and be quite ... stupid trolls thg and muerte go FUCK yourselves :E rly!
thaigo	2009-11-30 06:32
	Don't put words in my mouth. I wouldn't have bet on purri-sarge game.
rl	2009-11-30 06:27
	Yeh thaigo, you also bet 1000e that purri will own sarge in the groupstage very easily, but it was purri who got owned 2-0...so," imo PURRI should be kicked out from all ds leagues for fixing score on official league match" (c) Muerte....Get a life people cause it's getting more and more pathetic...
thaigo	2009-11-30 06:20
	Sarge, yes I knew the score before the match started and so did everyone else who know about the scores in group a. Doesn't take a genious to figure out the score when looking at the situation in group a. And u wonder why your game is so popular... Edited: 2009-11-30 06:21
sArge	2009-11-30 06:03
	@thaigo u knew the result before the match started? u r some kind of psychic or what? <scared> as I already said, I fucked up that map, many games ended 2:1 and only our is so 'popular' :E /edit: my demo is not a proof, try to figure out new one, gl Edited: 2009-11-30 06:05
thaigo	2009-11-30 05:43
	Sarge, u want proofs? Just look at your own demo. I could have bet 1000e before the game started that it was gonna end 2-1 win for sarge cause that was the best result for both(Kolt advancing to playoffs and u ending up 2nd in group). Kolt used your mistakes? Like u running headless with mg? U gotta be fucking kidding me.
sArge	2009-11-30 04:43
	@Muerte i rly wanted to win it 2:0 but ind 2nd map I just fucked up a bit and kolt was prepered and ready to use my mistakes against me and so he did 'fixing score' ? show proof :E
lux0r	2009-11-30 04:29
	ye, I noticed that situation too... kolt needed one map vs sArge... but it's not fixing imo, it's just not FAIR PLAY, like ragequiting... if it is true of course... so without firm proof admins can't do anything... for example, England should won Ukraine so Croatia could go to playoff in football but they lost... Covell should beat kolt, like Croatia should beat Ukraine btw bo3?
Muerte	2009-11-30 04:04
	"cause we don't want any situations like in the groupstage (delita, careem etc)" but 'situations' when one player give points to another to advanced in play off is more then welcome, especially if ur from Poland imo sarge and kolt should be kicked out from all ds leagues for fixing score on official league match covell and isbjorn should advance in playoff
Gerdt	2009-11-30 00:59
	word

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