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Playoffs starts now!!!

2012-04-23 09:59 | ceba

So Group stage is finished and you can see the final standings.
Unfortunately there were lots of warnings and that lead to kicking most of the players. After all this we have left only 8 players who didn't get 5 or more warnings and stayed in the League.
They are: Damiah, faint, pr0to, numavezi, st!gmata, zyga, apkis, devonee. Although pr0to was 3rd in his group we are adding him to playoffs.

I am sure you all read the rules and already know it but just to remind you:
Playoffs follow double elimination system.
Playoff games are played as a best of 5 maps.
The grand final is played as a best of 7 maps.

Also I would like to, once again, remind that players have to go to their match page and leave comment about when they can play.
So it would be wise to spend few minutes of your time to do that and we all will have nice Playoffs.
So go check the schedule and start playing!
You have till Sunday to play the games currently in schedule.

flag

numavezi vs flag

devonee

faint vs

st!gmata

Damiah vs

zyga

pr0to vs

APKIS^^

Good luck :)

Comments

Gerdt	2012-05-30 09:59
	wazaap with the playoffs?
ceba	2012-05-19 09:30
	BASSHUNTER, I think you are right, I will just poke my finger and we will have a winner.
BASSHUNTER	2012-05-03 02:15
	0/4 games played. Time to pick the winner lotterystyle!
Delita	2012-05-02 13:25
	Well... If I ever win the lottery I'll host a huge tournament with some kick ass cash prizes. Then we can all watch the Quakelive pro's struggle like fuckers in Quake 2.
Barton	2012-05-02 09:16
	I agree. 1 day cups for any amount of money backed by real sponsors (pipe dream, I know) would be the best solution in my eyes to increase activity/numbers among players and spectators.
adrenal1ne	2012-04-29 21:09
	these long leagues are not gonna save q2, simple as that. People get older, have families, work, whatever-other-kind-of-duties. There just is no time to keep playing and keep your shape up for a long period of time.
syanid	2012-04-29 13:40
	these long leagues are not gonna save q2, simple as that. People get older, have families, work, whatever-other-kind-of-duties. There just is no time to keep playing and keep your shape up for a long period of time. Imo some 1 day cups every now and then, announced early enough, could bring up some interest back and maybe some older bigger names back as well. I know I would consider participating myself, even if I'd get my ass handed to me on pretty much all games props for admins still trying to do something with this game, you guys rock. edit: oh and thaigo is right, after wizards withdrew from q2, the finnish scene pretty much died and it had a big effect on all of q2 scene. Edited: 2012-04-29 13:45
MCS_FaderJok0	2012-04-25 14:50
	Now you know where bickering gets you.
ceba	2012-04-25 12:08
	What I find strange is that people that dont play q2 care most about q2.
Delita	2012-04-25 10:49
	That's quite true actually. The Finnish players leaving Quake 2 really got the ball rolling. Quake 2 was only half the glory anyway back then but still that was the beginning of the end.
BASSHUNTER	2012-04-25 10:32
	Just stating a fact. Nothing more.
Z1on	2012-04-25 10:27
	Are u seeking for redemption thaigo? Why Did Judas Betray WIZARD? Edited: 2012-04-25 10:30
BASSHUNTER	2012-04-25 10:16
	So ure saying Finnish scene is not important. After I left, there hasn't been any top Finnish clan to actually finish any euroq2l league, which we did have with Wizards for several years.
Z1on	2012-04-25 10:14
	Iam talking about resurrection,so im on my point anyway,but u still not important ...
BASSHUNTER	2012-04-25 10:10
	Zion, keep up with that, you're doing a great job with getting q2 dead and look how far u have gotten already. Thumbs up for u!
Z1on	2012-04-25 10:01
	Sure thg u drag down entire Wizard clan... But it was suprise to see syanidz on last edl and now Sliipi & Damiah.So u are not that important at all.And quake is dead long time ago,the bigger problem is not becouse Delita left or thaigo,verry good and better skilled ppl then u 2 left long time ago,but the problem is rivals like David (who have to replace the missing parts) are in small amount.This is nothing have to do with u thg and delita believe me and stop make ur self so important to the scene .... q2 need more new rivals ,hard but not impossible Edited: 2012-04-25 10:02
BASSHUNTER	2012-04-25 09:45
	Quake 2 died the day I left it. All downhill from that moment on.
Z1on	2012-04-25 08:41
	Hell yeah ,stay tuned to nostalgia ...
Delita	2012-04-25 08:26
	Delita Trololol stay tuned to your nostalgia bulshit.Iam in all duel leagues and guess what???... I will finnish em all.I give a suggestion for an invitasionals tournament who will resurrected the interest to the game even for a while & My man TeChno who sponsored edl with money from hes own pocket.U call us trolls,but u are the BIG TIME ONE ever exist with the murte! Only things i read from u is whine,whine,whine sounds like some failure kido...Droped from every duel leagues,becouse of no skillz in quake2.Mad Regent was skilled on dm1,but u choose to stay with the nostalgia instead of doing something positive for the scene! I have fresh ideas for the scene ,and i will share it on time :ql: Now u can start whine how the scene kick u out ,the scene drops u becouse of your FAKE SKILLZ,made in china etc.... And btw iam one of the very few reasons to have some1 in Bulgaria still playing that game trollolol I rest my case....
Z1on	2012-04-25 08:17
	Delita Trololol stay tuned to your nostalgia bulshit.Iam in all duel leagues and guess what???... I will finnish em all.I give a suggestion for an invitasionals tournament who will resurrected the interest to the game even for a while & My man TeChno who sponsored edl with money from hes own pocket.U call us trolls,but u are the BIG TIME ONE ever exist with the murte! Only things i read from u is whine,whine,whine sounds like some failure kido...Droped from every duel leagues,becouse of no skillz in quake2.Mad Regent was skilled on dm1,but u choose to stay with the nostalgia instead of doing something positive for the scene! I have fresh ideas for the scene ,and i will share it on time :ql: Now u can start whine how the scene kick u out ,the scene drops u becouse of your FAKE SKILLZ,made in china etc.... And btw iam one of the very few reasons to have some1 in Bulgaria still playing that game trollolol Edited: 2012-04-25 08:20
Delita	2012-04-25 07:55
	Exactly, Quakelive dying would be a blessing to Quake 2. Not only that, it's a common thing for communities to come together if there is some kind of threat or tragedy. Z1on and Teichoi, you two call me a troll and yet all you have done to dish out abuse and cried about what 'has' happened and what we 'should' have done rather than giving an actual rational solution to the situation now. It's people like you two that have killed the scene to begin with; you are the biggest trolls of them all. Edited: 2012-04-25 07:57
MCS_FaderJok0	2012-04-25 07:09
	You know,you're supposed,to put spaces,after your,commas. The reason people stop playing is because they lose interest. Really, you aren't going to get anywhere with stricter rules. The players themselves have to be interested in a game for a league to be a success. Quake 2 will NOT be revived, or come back to life, or whatever you call it in just one tournament or league. Rome wasn't built in a day. Like Delita said, it's not the smartest idea just to keep trying to push a tournament. It's not all the admin's fault anyway. I think Welkin and ceba did a great job with Edge and EDL, but there just aren't that many interested players. When QuakeLive came along, a lot of people moved there from Quake 2. The best you can hope for is that QL goes under.
APKIS	2012-04-25 03:11
	Draw your weapons and play!!!!!
TeiOch	2012-04-25 02:12
	I so agree with ZION-master's last comment He got it all right, all of it. Generally, i think it may have been a mistake to introduce edge #3 league when edl was still running and not long ago eq2l ended. wisest must be to run 1 league at a time, in these crisis. (tho not to the extent as the troll nublita believes). ceba: nah, ladder system will not work, believe me! welk: i know, but I rather meant that the rulez might provoking this behaviour to many players, if rules are altered (to smth more suitable - dont ask me what) then automatically players will have more easy at tournaments: more games played, less w/o's and other lame things.
Z1on	2012-04-24 19:04
	People who playing quake 2 about nostalgia,cant comeback!!! I know 2 3 of the greatest bulgarians q2 players who play it for the nostalgia ,and this is = 1,2 tdm games 1,2 times in the year...Look at bubkez,dimmo,mikko etc! I dont play for the nostalgia,only becouse i have FUN!!!There is so many purpose u can find in the ppl ,but nostalgia is just to sit and cry over the dead corpse ,long time gone things! Stupid Delita and FARTjoke....... People need entertaining and huge amount of classic battles in demosquad ,like Provi vs Purri,Scooby vs Damiah,Dimmo vs Damiah ,Slippi vs Turricane,Purri vs Odis Purri vs Assasin .Purri vs Welkin ,Sccooobs vs Warrior or Error...the old blood ,classics ones there is so many examples ....so many that can entertain and reborn quake 2! Look at Isbjorn,Optimus,Fiziu,David,Jol,Goat, omg there is so many crazy ppl who can resurect the game just in one short turnament ... :ql: Edited: 2012-04-25 06:12
pr0to	2012-04-24 16:49
	if did the league on the map ztn2dm3. I would have laughed
faint	2012-04-24 16:41
	hahah pr0to with all games lost xD
pr0to	2012-04-24 16:37
	my god. I still play in this league
MCS_FaderJok0	2012-04-24 14:51
	I agree with Delita's last comment.
Z1on	2012-04-24 14:17
	Have to say that - the invitational leagues was the most succesfully at all.This is the pill for the most of the great ppl to comeback even for a while,short league,money amount and a lot of spectators (WARNING:no trolololS like Delita invited! ) We the quakers must gain some sponsors to make this happen.The admins must spam all forums for gamers to show them that community is still a live,the quake 2 will be resurected very fast i believe. :ql: Edited: 2012-04-24 14:18
Delita	2012-04-24 14:03
	It's like this... if you keep pushing people now, they won't come back in the Autumn. If you just give people a breather then there is a lot higher possibility that nostalgia will kick in and Quake 2 will pick up again in Autumn.
Welkin	2012-04-24 13:33
	Delita: Different from dead, or different from last fall?
Delita	2012-04-24 09:57
	Quake 2 is dead... and this autumn isn't going to be any different unfortunately.
ceba	2012-04-24 09:50
	I am not going to do that Delita There are rules, just need to read and follow them, and no problems But its nothing new, every year q2 is played in late autumn most and then nothing the rest of the year.
Delita	2012-04-24 09:26
	Take my advice. It'll take time but it's the only chance Quake 2 has. Constantly pestering players to play their matches will only become a mental burden to them and they will want to play Quake 2 or be around the community even less. Think of this as a Quake 2 cardiac arrest and it requires a burst of energy and a slight massage to be revived...
MCS_FaderJok0	2012-04-24 07:09
	Like I said before; majority of the responsibility lies in the players to do their matches. Not the admin's fault.
ceba	2012-04-24 05:48
	I suppose league needs a suggestion box And Apkis, league needs more players like you who schedules games, play games on time, and uploads demos. Sofiene, Playoffs already are late more than 3 weeks and you saying players need more time? You think that will change anything? If player cares he will come and from time to time and check news, check email, do something. Or should admins go and begging every single player if they could be so kind and play a game per week? And if you would take your time and read the rules you would understand that in Edge and EDL games are forced ONLY when both players post comments about when they can play, but still dont agree on time and dont play, only then game is forced. Also forcing wont give any result that are different from now, players will get a w/o forcing or not, because they dont have time or interest in playing. And thats just my opinion. I dont see any solution, someone suggests longer league, someone suggests shorter. In the end it seems there should be just a ladder system, that would keep scores all year round. You play whenever you want with whom ever you want. Cause now noone is going to chase players. I hope we can finish this season as smoothly as possible. Edited: 2012-04-24 10:02
zyga	2012-04-24 02:45
	for me to have to punish players who break rules, and that's it.
Delita	2012-04-23 21:29
	You know the best thing you could do for Quake 2 at the moment. Shut down all the leagues. It'll create a collective nostalgia over time and probably result in leagues being reformed with a more healthy attitude to the survival of Quake 2. Edited: 2012-04-24 09:21
sofiene	2012-04-23 21:08
	to be honest,this is the worst play-offs ever,all i see in the groupes is minus points,cant you wait for some players or force a game or two per-week ? ( purri,dm and others are out but i think they will maybe have time to play). this is just my opinion.
APKIS	2012-04-23 17:23
	just the season had to be 1/2 shorter. or 2/3. Now even I am not able to play my game in playoffs (and i got zero warnings so far this season in both leagues edl and edge)
MCS_FaderJok0	2012-04-23 14:58
	In the end, it's not the admin's fault if players aren't playing their matches. It's the responsibility of the PLAYERS to play their matches, and it's the PLAYERS* responsibility to contact and schedule matches with people. You can't just wait and wait and wait and expect to win by walkover. That's just lame.
Welkin	2012-04-23 14:14
	teioch: Indeed, there is something there making this happen. People generally have a tendency of not giving a shit, and just choosing to ignore the rules and system for the competition.
TeiOch	2012-04-23 13:06
	Somehow this feels wrong... (yez i know about the rules, but there is smth there making it happen this way) GG Damiah !!
ceba	2012-04-23 12:10
	You can see whole layout if you click "PLAYOFFS" on left side menu
APKIS	2012-04-23 10:05
	announce the pairs!
ceba	2012-04-23 10:04
	Damn Apkis, you are fast man
APKIS	2012-04-23 10:01
	The most successful league !!!! Keep going

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