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EDL #20
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Match: mir^rpg vs Damiah
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Summary

flag mir^rpg vs Damiah flag
Type:A
Referee:flag wision
Date:2008-01-10 15:30
Score:0:2
Frags:0:0
Maps:w/o, w/o
Scores:o:w, o:w
Demos:———

Description
damiah picked q2rdm2, rpg picked ztn2dm2.. q2dm1 left after map kicking and rpg left during the match, so whole match is turned into WO.

RPG is kicked out of the league for continuous disrespecting the rules..

screenscreen
Comments

wision
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2008-01-20 16:06 
let me highlight something from syanid's post...
"Looks like I've added that game previously wrong ef|da^wd... Anyway old games do not apply in here, all games where a player disconnects during a map like rpg did, will be turned into a w/o."

if purri will disconnect during the match he will also get WO i can guarantee that. the difference here is that he wouldn't do it.

anyway.. we agreed that players can replay if they both agree so discussion is pointless..
Ramses
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2008-01-20 12:49 
agree with Pele emo
[BRA]Morcego
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2008-01-16 17:58 
lol purri left the server but look at the score: 3x1, the whole match doesnt seem to have been turned in WO. There's absolutely no reason for repeating the match (and quiting before a match is over is a really sad attitude), but obviously the result should be 2x1, not 2x0 (exactly as it was done when the player in the other side was purri). Too sad to see 2 different decisions depending on the player and not in any rules. Thats my opinion.
CsLq2
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2008-01-13 04:02 
No need to repeat dm1 here.
It's almost every time the same shit, just like in NDML. It's calling attitude. emo
gg rpg. sorry, dami

Edited: 2008-01-13 04:03
rzr
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2008-01-12 20:29 
Muerte: rpg is a fukkin' NUP!
Muerte
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2008-01-12 16:51 
btw even purri get w/o after he disconnected in EDLONE

http://q2scene.net/edl/index.php?op=descr&id=10156

can u read any comment from Sweden players trying to get match repeated / continued

btw purri was EDL Champion that season

purri respect rules...

chicken should do same thing emo
Muerte
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2008-01-12 15:45 
bla, bla
i know u count on usual polite attitude from Damiah
but if Damiah can make times from his 12/7 work/classes, he shouldn't be forced to accept repeating duel against childish quiting chicken

i could understand if rpg was slapped by ma/pa but
"my friends come and stop play" is insulting to league and EDL champion Damiah

AlexyeNov
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2008-01-12 05:12 
Muerte:

OK, i will add Dami to my fairplay page if dm1 will played =)
http://www.q2scene.net/rdl/index.php?op=inter&id=60042
ef|da^wd
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2008-01-12 02:56 
well done sya! emo
2 mrt
I'll do it instead of syanid. Shame on ya RPG!!! emo

Edited: 2008-01-12 02:57
rzr
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2008-01-11 20:18 
rpg is a good player and 'whole Russian q2 community' want to see this duel.
Muerte
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2008-01-11 19:06 
sry syanid imho its unfair and disrespect to EDL Champion Damiah to trow decision in 'his hands'
2 admins was on server and u sow what rpg do

its nice to see when 'whole Russian q2 community' rise and stand by his player
but here is wrong reason...

if u have any respect for league and EDL Champion Damiah u should wrote: shame on u rpg
AlexyeNov
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2008-01-11 17:09 
nice, Syanid.
Wision rights in 100 percents, but real game seems more enjoyable emo
Hibru
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2008-01-11 16:38 
RPG, never do that again. Ur my charge.
Blaizz
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2008-01-11 16:36 
thx sya
kabysdoh
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2008-01-11 16:25 
kthx sya
syanid
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2008-01-11 15:50 
Looks like I've added that game previously wrong ef|da^wd... Anyway old games do not apply in here, all games where a player disconnects during a map like rpg did, will be turned into a w/o. As for questions about re-playing that final map, I don't see any problem with it. If Damiah agrees, they can play it and the score will be changed to whatever the outcome may be. This decision is up to Damiah, if he wants to play it or not.
mir^rpg
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2008-01-11 14:06 
It not a unique example
ef|da^wd
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2008-01-11 14:01 
i just found almost the same match:
http://www.q2scene.net/edl/index.php?op=descr&id=10616
BL.101.KA
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2008-01-11 13:38 
Guys, i can't understand...
It's just a GAME!..
Just let 'em show the best game we've ever seen!
Yeah, there are the "league rules", but i think, admins can make one little step aside, so all community could see such game!


Edited: 2008-01-11 13:39
AlexyeNov
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2008-01-11 09:08 
most commented edl6 match's thread emo
fOod
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2008-01-11 09:02 
ye, let them play!!
duco
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2008-01-11 08:05 
i'm just curious... what was score on dm1 when rpg quit.

0-0
i assume it wasn't 10-0 for rpg...
because of the simple q2 rule:
-winners usually don't quit a game in progress.. losers do.

And 'visitors' ... then schedule your match so you got 50 minues of time to play a match.
kabysdoh
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2008-01-11 06:44 
wision: yes. boss. but still emo
[IS]n3xT
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2008-01-11 06:22 
let them play emo
wision
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2008-01-11 06:10 
yes.. rules need constant updating.. but it is a "little" bit unfair to do during the league.

anyway.. with current rules there are multiple rules which applies to this case. you just don't see them probably

kabysdoh: demanding is very baaaaaad..
ef|da^wd
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2008-01-11 06:03 
to avoid such situations in future, an admins should update EDL rules...no?

Edited: 2008-01-11 06:03
kabysdoh
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2008-01-11 05:56 
wision sure i know and so i ask. another way i'd demand.
AlexyeNov
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2008-01-11 05:50 
LOL
i see only now :

is __d34d optiMus's clone ? emo emo emo

See his avatar emo
http://q2scene.net/edl/index.php?op=users&id=330

Opti fotos:
http://webfile.ru/1677726

Edited: 2008-01-11 06:05
wision
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2008-01-11 05:26 
LBA2: i uploaded them even tho that we decided to put WO

kabysdoh: but this is not RDL and you should know the saying "ignorence of the rules is not an excuse"?
Muerte
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2008-01-11 05:15 
nhf but if rpg is that good he will play again vs Damiah in play off emo

repeating match will be unfair to all players who lose with w/o in past EDL seasons emo
fpS
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2008-01-11 05:10 
League admins will inform us if their decision will change i think. And rpg need to think a bit more before doing anything next time.
ef|da^wd
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2008-01-11 05:07 
i'd love to see here Damiah's comment....Dami where r ya? emo
AlexyeNov
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2008-01-11 04:55 
is rematch possible ?
I sure that dm1 game will very nice and all ppl want to see it.

Edited: 2008-01-11 04:57
kabysdoh
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2008-01-11 03:48 
Guys lemme make clear one thing.

We use another system about disconnects and walkovers in RDL. RPG plays EDL for the 1st time this season, and, as far as he is poor in english, he just didn't know how it goes here. It's actually my bad that i didn't pick his attention on these difference on time. He thought he would lose only one map, that's why he disconnected so fast.

So i'd ask head admins to think one more time and make the 1st and the last exeption for RPG who plays much better than speaks english, and let him play the decider map another day. If Damiah don't mind agains that ofcoz. What about me, i'll point this rule to russian players imediately.

Edited: 2008-01-11 03:58
LBA2
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2008-01-11 03:17 
anyway.. we want to see those demos! emo
just "must have"
fpS
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2008-01-11 02:41 
Not provider problem has made this match result.
{42A}SERj
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2008-01-11 02:27 
after 2 maps score was 1:1. its only problem whis provaider
fpS
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2008-01-11 02:27 
Clear now sya.
syanid
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2008-01-11 01:35 
As fpS pointed out, there is no straight rule about turning the whole game into a w/o in case of disconnecting during one map. However this has been a rule before in EDL and it is a common practise used in this kind of situation. Disconnecting during a match is a bad act by a player not only towards the league but even more for the other player. The reason behind rpg disconnecting may be whatever it may be, but the way how he did it does not indicate that he was just having friends come over. He did not say "I have to go", "hold" or anything, he said "I loose" and quited immedeately.

If you want to have some rule behind this decision, here you go:
1.4 Any behavior taken by a player to intentionally harm the league or one of its matches can be punished.
9.3 The decision about the punishment is made among the admins. There are variety of punishments, from forfeiting the match to kickban from the league.

In this case it is forfeiting the match.
fpS
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2008-01-11 00:23 
Btw, i didnt see the rule folowing which the whole macth result turn to w/o after disconect in one of the map. Its wisions innovation?
{42A}SERj
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2008-01-10 22:58 
Fuck. emo
Cheimera
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2008-01-10 20:19 
i dont know but if i would be dami i would say yeh lets play the last map no mather what the reasons were why the other guy dropped out. Cuase i wouldent want to win any map by w/o. but hey thats me i respect damis opinion if he dont want also.
LBA2
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2008-01-10 20:05 
if w\o was there, so why i can see the screens wit scores in post? its unlogic
CsLq2
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2008-01-10 18:48 
sad sad sad. there is no people in the world except my belowed while playing the DECIDING game with Dami emo

Edited: 2008-01-10 18:49
ef|da^wd
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2008-01-10 17:52 
2 kaby
i suppose that itsn't pretty good to turn whole match into w/o..
kabysdoh
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2008-01-10 17:47 
too bad. rules are all followed but what about me i still wanna see the last map. maybe damiah will let us do... emo
ef|da^wd
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2008-01-10 17:39 
2 wision
rpg plays quite good most of q2 maps
wision
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2008-01-10 17:32 
rpg you are supposed to play whole match.. not only those maps which you like.
mir^rpg
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2008-01-10 17:31 
emo
mir^rpg
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2008-01-10 17:31 
dami die
emo
mir^rpg
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2008-01-10 17:31 
if what i could re-play the 3rd map
fucking guests.. emo

Edited: 2008-01-10 17:44
ef|da^wd
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2008-01-10 17:30 
2 wision
emo
if admins will able to rpg re-play 3rd map, that would be really exciting!
2 kicia
game or 3rd map only? emo emo emo

Edited: 2008-01-10 17:37
mir^rpg
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2008-01-10 17:30 
i give up on dm1
not other maps
2:1 must be
don't have time for dm1
Could not more play, circumstances.. visitors..
syka prov
kicia
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2008-01-10 17:29 
rpg you really were hoping for 2:1? you just disconnected, without saying anything to admins or dami, you could reschedule a game.
ehh ppl pls respect others.
wision
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2008-01-10 17:29 
for me the match result is correct.. since i proposed it.
he doesn't have right to moan like this since he did what he did.
about replaying the map, i'd have to talk to other admins..
ef|da^wd
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2008-01-10 17:25 
2 wision
is it all clear with match results? Does rpg right on his meaning? Can he replays the 3d map? in case of Damiah doesn't mind ofcuz

Edited: 2008-01-10 17:26
wision
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2008-01-10 17:21 
and that's really NOT the way how you play your games in EDL.. it's not fair towards admins, it's not fair towards spectators and mostly it's not fair towards your opponent..
mir^rpg
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2008-01-10 17:21 
2:1 must be emo
mir^rpg
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2008-01-10 17:14 
i get quit second time becous i have guests.
why i get w/o? where is real score?
fpS
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2008-01-10 17:08 
otpek, what the ambitions? Just wanted to see good game on dm1 too. Rdm2 and ztn2 where good. Its rpg's choice.

Edited: 2008-01-10 17:09
kicia
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2008-01-10 17:08 
ef|da^wd - admins were on the server. And yea rpg had problems, but then when they finally were playing again, he said "i lose" and disconnected.
ef|da^wd
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2008-01-10 16:48 
2 otpek
wich one?

for referies i could send whole log if it requires

Edited: 2008-01-10 17:00
otpek
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2008-01-10 16:47 
all Russian ambition crashing on one big wall...
ef|da^wd
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2008-01-10 16:46 
here is a part of log from this server

Damiah: :<
[2008-01-10 23:19] (IsiLDuR): pss dean is the best
[2008-01-10 23:19] (nz0r): onda assaisna i on je gotov
[2008-01-10 23:19] (nz0r): emo
[2008-01-10 23:19] (dean): da
[2008-01-10 23:19] (geTuHa): ppc
[2008-01-10 23:19] (syanid): messagemode 2 people
[2008-01-10 23:19] (syanid): please
[2008-01-10 23:19] (nz0r): disi slesh
[2008-01-10 23:19] thg connected
[2008-01-10 23:19] (thg connected from 85.217.33.177)
[2008-01-10 23:19] (nz0r): i do
[2008-01-10 23:19] thg[85.217.33.177:13193]: protocol 34: "R1Q2 b7187 x86 Feb 9 2007 Win32 RELEASE"
[2008-01-10 23:19] (nz0r): ..
[2008-01-10 23:19] (IsiLDuR): tusam
[2008-01-10 23:19] (geTuHa): notreal
[2008-01-10 23:19] (nz0r): ggemo
[2008-01-10 23:19] (geTuHa): blaa
[2008-01-10 23:19] (nz0r): provi disi!
[2008-01-10 23:19] (optiMus): eto pizdec
[2008-01-10 23:19] (x): 1 frag de pobeda emo
[2008-01-10 23:20] (geTuHa): obidno
[2008-01-10 23:20] (x): ne
[2008-01-10 23:20] ([edl]wision): what was time left?
[2008-01-10 23:20] (geTuHa): aga
[2008-01-10 23:20] (nz0r): 13:xx
[2008-01-10 23:20] [WeHa] connected
[2008-01-10 23:20] ([WeHa] connected from 194.105.133.231)
[2008-01-10 23:20] (optiMus): kakoy na4alo
[2008-01-10 23:20] (optiMus): kakoe
[2008-01-10 23:20]
[2008-01-10 23:20] mir^rpg timed out
[2008-01-10 23:20] Dropping mir^rpg, timed out.
[2008-01-10 23:20] mir^rpg removed from team "mir^rpg"
[2008-01-10 23:20] mir^rpg wimped out and left. (clients = 1)
[2008-01-10 23:20] No opponent to play! Match terminated.
[2008-01-10 23:20] optiMus: inter
[2008-01-10 23:20]
Does it mean that RPG deserved W/O? emo
detina
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2008-01-10 16:38 
you are not, was not good
ef|da^wd
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2008-01-10 16:33 
it's a pitty, if i'm not mistaken RPG recieved some troubles related to internet connection....no?
wision
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2008-01-10 16:26 
all non english comments have been deleted..
ef|da^wd
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2008-01-10 16:22 
lol? rpg owned Dami on z2? emo
Blaizz
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2008-01-10 16:19 
rpg dont give up next time, keep your nerves calm please ..
ceLer1
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2008-01-10 15:55 
emo: emo: emo: emo: emo:
Gip5y
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2008-01-10 15:41 
emo
__d34d
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2008-01-10 15:40 
That's rigid, but right.
fpS
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2008-01-10 15:40 
Nerve. Dm1 should be nice game. ggs
optiMus
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2008-01-10 15:38 
emo

Edited: 2008-01-10 15:38

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