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EDL #20
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Match: careem vs {42A}SERj
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Summary

flag careem vs {42A}SERj flag
Type:B
Referee:flag syanid
Date:2010-01-26 14:00
Score:2:0
Frags:0:0
Maps:w/o, w/o
Scores:w:o, w:o
Demos:———

Description
serj is out of the league due to 3x WO..

Comments

wision
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2010-01-28 05:18 
"Actually you did search for their nick names and slap them instead to give them a reminder or something."
i didn't search for their nickname but otherwise it's right.. did i say something else? no..

"difference is that you need to be fully active and fast during the cup"
indeed.. and the players are also more dedicated and also available during the time of whole tournament.. that's pretty much big difference to half-a-year league, so that's why you can't compare them

"Nice attitude there."
so you really need me to wipe your ass?

"However, -1p doesnt matter to me atm since im going forward anyway, but this is pathetic."
i told you already yesterday evening (before you posted your whiny post this morning) that you will get 3 points since this is serj's 4th wo..

and yes it is pathetic.. because if you've spent half of your whining time to schedule your games, all your matches would be already over
syanid
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2010-01-28 04:46 
well wrong, you are easily going through the group stage, the question is on what position? Anyway after all it's players responsibility to take care of his own games, schedule and play them. All players whos games are forced now failed to do so originally and thus the games had to be forced. Now it becomes again players responsibility to be on EDL channel at the time of the game and look for your opponent. Admins usually try to see who's online and who's not and decide on that basis to whom the w/o should be given. Wision said on the channel all of the players nicknames, trying to find out if they are going to play their games or not. If he's not getting any responses, then he draws his own conclusions and that's that. Anyway if you did pm serj at the forced time and have the proof to back it up, then the w/o can be changed so that you do get the default win.

Edit: oh and it seems that this was 4th w/o for serj and he will be removed from the league..

Edited: 2010-01-28 04:47
careem
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2010-01-28 04:27 
"nd also when i need to talk to 8 people at once i'm not going to search for their actual nickname on IRC, i will just ask them on #EDL and see who's active.."
Actually you did search for their nick names and slap them instead to give them a reminder or something.

Actually 1day cups and leagues are the same, the only difference is that you need to be fully active and fast during the cup.

""Why dont u take care of them?" like doing what? scheduling your own games for you? slapping your oponent? brushing your teeth? wiping your ass? get reasonable please.."

Nice attitude there. As I said already you should do little things like pm them, send them a reminder. Well, this is at least you can do if they are at irc. Slaping at irc channel isnt just enough. I have an example where Syanid actually pmed and gave me a reminder afterwards i played my game with jol.

However, -1p doesnt matter to me atm since im going forward anyway, but this is pathetic.

Edited: 2010-01-28 04:30
wision
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2010-01-28 02:16 
i did ask you about your game, you just didn't respond.. i didn't use query, but that shouldn't matter that much since you are supposed to be on #EDL at the time, and also when i need to talk to 8 people at once i'm not going to search for their actual nickname on IRC, i will just ask them on #EDL and see who's active.. and you were _NOT_, so there goes your first argument..

you don't really have to tell me about admin's responsibility and what his job is.. i hosted couple of one-day tournaments and leagues and there's no way you can compare those two since those are two completely different kinds of competition events.
"Why dont u take care of them?" like doing what? scheduling your own games for you? slapping your oponent? brushing your teeth? wiping your ass? get reasonable please..

"Here at EDL scene, admins are so lazy "busy" , they are arguing at irc and q2scene instead to take 2mins of time in their lifes and upload screens when is needed."
just please remember that _you_ (players) are those who makes us arguing on irc.. it's time spent on _you_, so you can take it as we share some time for the league (and for you) and if you spend it arguing with us, you're taking your own time from other things we could do. not even saying that arguing about something admins do for players makes admins a bit disappointed and they are losing their own will in making this league nice for everyone (like right now for example).. btw.. tell me when did we refuse to add any screens? yes it might take time because we also have real life things going on.. but i don't remember not adding a match at all

"please resign of the admin crew"
don't worry.. admins know when to step down, it's just not really good to do so in the middle of the league
careem
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2010-01-28 01:36 
If u see me idling / talking at irc why dont you ask me about our game? I mean, the guy which is at irc ACTIVE [idle respond 2secs?] at the time shouldnt get w/o at all.. At least I did so at BDL leagues... And admins at EDL should do this as well because this is a part of a job. Be an admin is a huge responsibility. Admins job is to take care of participants and league / cups. EDL is so small league, there is so low number of participants. Why dont u take care of them? If I'm an EDL admin I'll do the job like it has to be done. If I will see presentation of a player without his opponent on the time. I will msg him and ask what is with his game, where is his opponent and so on... I mean, this is at least admins should do at so small community. I have joined plenty of time to huge 1day cups in QL where is even much bigger responsibility and they pmed me each round if they found me at irc. Here at EDL scene, admins are so lazy "busy" , they are arguing at irc and q2scene instead to take 2mins of time in their lifes and upload screens when is needed.

This is at least I can say something on that and simillar situations. The job which are admins doing IN EDL are nothing compared to the real admins job.

The admins responsibility is huge and if you cant stand pressure then please resign of the admin crew!
syanid
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2010-01-27 08:05 
the trick is to talk to admins on the forced time, not the next day. We can't know who is doing what, unless you tell us. I'm sure you know this? You are allowed to play the game still, as long as you get serj to agree on it.
careem
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2010-01-27 06:40 
dude i was playing q2 since 18 cet till 1am ... i was also talking at irc all the time.. dunno if I noticed that you highlighted cos every time someone highlights me for a pcw at #plus.ql or at #quake.si and pms about to have esl / cb and some other leagues we are singed in with our clan in QL. So I did not pay attention... Maybe would be better if u PMed me or something. This i could at least notice.... Also he have every group game w/o, why do you think he would have showed up anyway? really stupid
wision
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2010-01-27 06:31 
you are supposed to talk to admins on forced time or at last 20 minutes later (you were even highlighted 1 hour after by me and you didn't answer).. your only activity registered by me was 5 hours after forced time and yet you still didn't talk about this match.. next activity was around 11:00 next day when you finally started to talk about this match.

so... "i was fully active at irc / q2 at my forced match" my ass
careem
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2010-01-27 06:19 
i have talked with wision, i have been searching for serj, i have sent him a pm, i have played my delayed edl on this forced date, i was fully active at irc / q2 at my forced match.. i told everything i wrote here to wisin already =)) but seriously, u guys must be kidding me emo

hopefully he will show up / reply someday so i can get rid of -1 p emo


Edited: 2010-01-27 06:22

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