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EDL #20
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Match: Welkin vs adrenal1ne
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Summary

flag Welkin vs adrenal1ne flag
Type:Play-offs
Referee:flag Welkin
Server:DFUK/TSt4
Date:2012-05-24 15:00
Score:3:0
Frags:24:-68
Maps:q2duel1, w/o, ztn2dm3
Scores:20:5, 1:-75, 3:2
Demos:———

Description
Deadline: 2012-05-23 24.00 CET

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Home/away.

adrenaline picked q2duel1. Welkin picked q2dm2. 3rd map ztn2dm3. (4th map q2dm3.)

adrenaline left during the game on q2dm2, and thereby forfeited the map. For this he receives two warnings (rule 3.3.9 + 7.2.3).

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Comments

EleMeNt
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2012-05-28 15:40 
gg emo
Welkin
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2012-05-28 07:13 
emo
MCS_FaderJok0
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2012-05-27 17:40 
Nowhere near as intense as dm2. It was 0-0 for almost the entire game.
Barton
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2012-05-27 17:30 
z3 was intense. gg emo
Welkin
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2012-05-26 04:34 
gzero: soon on ds
gzero
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2012-05-26 02:53 
demos?
adrenal1ne
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2012-05-25 16:05 
lucky
psm
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2012-05-24 20:18 
emo
Welkin
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2012-05-24 16:54 
teioch, haunted was probably being sarcastic. :]

Edited: 2012-05-24 17:25
*TeiOch*
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2012-05-24 15:48 
yaa agree =) GL GL !!
haunted`
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2012-05-24 15:31 
this is going to be a great match, i hope it doesn't get postponed any longer, the suspense is killing me.

hoahoa
Welkin
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2012-05-24 13:41 
postponed to 22.00 cet
Welkin
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2012-05-24 10:17 
Date: 2012-05-24 21:00

gotta be logged in, teioch!
*TeiOch*
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2012-05-24 09:50 
20 cet today ?
Welkin
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2012-05-23 17:14 
we postponed because i had problems with dfuk.





hoahoa
MCS_FaderJok0
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2012-05-23 13:38 
I'd like to see this one. emo
Welkin
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2012-05-23 08:28 
make that 21.45 cet.
Welkin
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2012-05-22 19:05 
guess it is for me too then.
adrenal1ne
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2012-05-22 14:05 
I finally got my ping check, comments are irrelevant. Wednesday 21cet-on is awesome for me.
Welkin
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2012-05-22 06:21 
btw, wednesday 19.30 cet?
Welkin
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2012-05-22 06:07 
i have no idea what "initial quandary" you're talking about. you've erased every comment you've made here.
adrenal1ne
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2012-05-21 18:19 
thank you for finally answering my initial quandary.. Wednesday sounds good.
Welkin
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2012-05-21 12:22 
no need, adrenaline. home/away is off the table. i can play tomorrow or wednesday - you?

edit: this is kind of not necessary, but i just felt like providing some actual facts to the ping speculations. this is digitalfrag illinois: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/856/quake118.png/

Edited: 2012-05-21 13:04
Hi7maN
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2012-05-21 12:04 
You can resignate from league if you dont agree the rules, you can also beat David or purri just play on serwer when they have ping 200
Welkin
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2012-05-21 11:16 
2012/05/21 [17:13:43] * [W]adreN_- (~adz1La@ip70-171-74-83.no.no.cox.net) has joined #EDL
2012/05/21 [17:14:00] <[W]adreN_-> hey Hi7maN
2012/05/21 [17:14:04] <[W]adreN_-> learn some english
2012/05/21 [17:14:21] <[W]adreN_-> and while you are at it, learn how to calculate net ping difference
2012/05/21 [17:14:36] <[W]adreN_-> have a good day mr. hoahoa
2012/05/21 [17:14:39] * [W]adreN_- (~adz1La@ip70-171-74-83.no.no.cox.net) has left #EDL

hoahoa
Hi7maN
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2012-05-21 05:02 
Ye for example faderjoko is playing constantly on europe servfers and he doesnt claim for that, ping 130 for eu player is non playable. Its EUROPEAN duel league, not European + USA so if ping is higher than 100 for eu, server shouldnt be played at.

Edited: 2012-05-21 05:04
adrenal1ne
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2012-05-19 18:24 
hoahoa
Welkin
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2012-05-19 14:45 
well put, haunted.
haunted`
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2012-05-19 14:18 
Someone is really worried about playing adrenal1ne.

emo
kinezu
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2012-05-19 12:46 
Home/away generaly sux, first of all because opponent can choose some map u dont like or he knows pretty well ur map and 2nd, some ppl are more used to high ping then others (they play more often on high ping or simply numbers dont speak truth).
And regarding this matter i m more like with closest servers between eu and usa. If an usa player wants so fair ping difference then he must get better connection. Even i as i m from europe and have shit connection i dont ask ppl to play on fair ping... because is my fault and not theirs.
Welkin
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2012-05-19 10:46 
oh, wait, so it is in fact a matter of you trying to fuck up my ping. you consider yourself having been treated unfairly in your game vs diaa, so now you want to take it out on me? let's not forget that diaa agreed to play with 70 ping in europe.. and you even ended up with a better ping difference than him, pretty much the same number as you now seek to deny me. hypocrisy, huh?

the whole point with home/away is making the game playable for both parties, not dragging the other player down to whatever shitty conditions you yourself have to put up with.

and since we're editing our posts, let me add that if this was super serious and all that, why would i even agree to home/away? the only reason i debate you on this, is because i find you greedy. i offer you my hand and you try to rip my whole arm off.

edit: most of this was in response to comments adren has now erased.

Edited: 2012-05-20 14:55
ceba
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2012-05-19 09:23 
Haunted, there is no "must"
And
I think the best way to play is if adrenaline plays on best European server for him, and Welkin plays on best US server for him.
I am pretty sure welkin would agree to play on other European server where adrenaline would get better ping, even if that would mean he would loose few ms him self. But there is no other better server.
But from what I understand now, he wants to play on other server, where welkin would ping more, and he himself wouldn't gain anything :/
I hope you will find a solution here.
Its just a game, try and have fun emo
padonkas
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2012-05-19 09:22 
Whats is most fair now is that welkin agrees to play home/away.

I think adren should agree on welkins best away server (as welkin agrees on adrens server in eu?) or guys just play on european servers only as this is EDL and adrenaline is guest here.
haunted`
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2012-05-18 20:57 
I know what the rules say(the eu player must AGREE to home/away), but adren isn't trying to fuck your ping up, what he's suggesting is actually more fair likely. I'm just correcting you on this, because you "don't see the fairness in that". I'll explain:

100 vs 55 .. 130 vs 40

is on tourney4/dfuk for you guys...

this means, if you don't ping more than 130ms to DFIL, it's more "fair" then what you're suggesting. and I actually don't think you do ping more than that there, join up and take a screenshot for us if not.

bottom line, you can do whatever you want since it's the rules, but don't try and make it look like adren is trying to get the edge on you here, because that just isn't true.

gl hf etc either way....
Welkin
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2012-05-18 11:42 
i have no problem playing this home/away, but i'm not agreeing to an illinois server just because you wanna fuck up my ping even more. i don't see the fairness in that. nah, my best american server and your best european.

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