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EDL #20
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Match: David vs PURRI
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Summary

flag David vs PURRI flag
Type:Play-offs
Referee:flag Welkin
Server:Digitalfrag DE
Date:2012-06-14 14:15
Score:4:2
Frags:98:70
Maps:q2rdm2, koldduel1, q2rdm5, ztn2dm2, ptrip, q2dm1
Scores:17:8, 19:7, 17:19, 10:19, 26:15, 9:2
Demos:q2rdm2 « David, koldduel1 « David, q2rdm5 « David, ztn2dm2 « David, ptrip « David, q2dm1 « David, q2dm1 « purri, ptrip « purri, ztn2dm2 « purri, q2rdm5 « purri, koldduel1 « purri, q2rdm2 « purri

Description
EDL #10 Division 1 Grand Final

David picked q2rdm2. Purri picked koldduel1. 3rd map q2rdm5. 4th map ztn2dm2. 5th map ptrip. 6th map q2dm1.

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Links:

TastyspleenTV Stream (shoutcast by Jehar, with some assistance from Welkin & brzn): Part 1, Part 2, Part 3

David's Camera Recording: Youtube piece #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9
The recording was made available 2012-06-15 01:03:14 CET, = ~93 minutes after the game was finished.

Esreality.com News Post

GTV Server Log

#EDL IRC Channel Log

#Tastycast IRC Channel Log

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Special thanks to flagJehar for the stream and shoutcast, flagisland55 for giving us full access to his Digitalfrag servers, flagTeiOch for his generous donations, and David and Purri for showing a great example of fair play and fine sportsmanship in this final. This game depends on people like you! /Welkin

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Comments

obs
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2012-11-10 15:46 
new school > old school
Aone
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2012-08-29 18:57 
gratz David u are one of who trying to make best for quake2! thanks for admins for that league! next time more streams!!! emo)) emo emo emo delita fuck off
kolt
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2012-07-21 06:01 
what a nice chat we have here
very very entertaining
MCS_FaderJok0
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2012-07-20 19:51 
Random guy: "Delita, you're a troll, so I will keep responding to you even though I believe that's exactly what you want."

Delita is actually right on this matter. emo emo emo
Delita
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2012-07-20 19:46 
Raped
dem
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2012-07-20 06:07 
poor Delita ... I'm very sorry for you that you have to prove you are better then everyone by writing "raped" after each post...

I share hope you are doing this not because, you have big problems in real life. but c'mon, world is beautyfull! sun is shining, people fell in love... you can do the same! just try a bit... go outside dude! Your life is waiting for you!
Delita
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2012-07-18 20:04 
Teioch = C.U.N.T
sofiene
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2012-07-17 13:35 
Hi
Delita
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2012-07-16 19:41 
Raped
`norman
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2012-07-16 02:42 
Digital elite lame internet troll attack - D.E.L.I.T.A.

Edited: 2012-07-16 13:32
*TeiOch*
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2012-07-15 17:54 
Moron Is Really Retarded;
M,I,R,R

I base your comment that you 'raped yourself'. Gratz..
Delita
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2012-07-15 17:43 
Raped
*TeiOch*
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2012-07-15 09:03 
The (only) reason I don't reply back to you, and back up my points, is because of this (trollish) attitude of yours: "Mirr 1 - Everyone else raped".

You can go ahead and think "that". Most of us really don't give a fuck. You are a pitiful Troll with a mission to only troll the q2 "scene". You really think I wanna waste my time (unlike you do) on matters in constant upwind? It is being as almost literally as walking straight towards and inside your trollish gape!

No thanks! emo:
Delita
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2012-07-14 21:07 
Mirr 1 - Everyone else raped
MCS_FaderJok0
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2012-07-14 15:32 
Also, I ran your pic through Google images.

http://i.imgur.com/piNhY.png
MCS_FaderJok0
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2012-07-14 15:27 
http://tinyurl.com/7tdv5gs
Welkin
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2012-07-14 15:24 
inexperience = opinions ?
Delita
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2012-07-14 13:59 
Inexperience = posting gifs, abusive comments, troll comments, opinions.

Experience = talking about Quake 2 in a civilized manner.

*rl*
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2012-07-14 12:24 
http://i49.tinypic.com/34y6u76.jpg
Delita
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2012-07-14 09:52 
You're all talking about trolls... and yet who are the ones dishing out the shit? Say something worth saying for once instead of just going... 'False statements blah blah' and then not backing it up at all.

Or posting ridiculous 'unfunny' GIFs that only really shows that you don't know a fucking thing about Quake 2 to begin with.
Welkin
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2012-07-14 01:54 
fader: that gave me the best rofl of the week
MCS_FaderJok0
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2012-07-13 14:04 
Welkin: http://tinyurl.com/cnyg652
Abc
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2012-07-13 13:25 
delita passed? ;>
sux that United Kingdom got his own troll Delita ( get some air, u rly need it.. ), like Poland got dem emo
shit happens, wp David/Puzzi
Welkin
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2012-07-12 07:31 
http://tinyurl.com/cto9csf
MCS_FaderJok0
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2012-07-10 21:57 
I agree with David.

:>
Delita
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2012-07-09 13:46 
You post has partly false statements, partly true (only because it is so obvious and obviously you are mostly not devoted to those parts), partly poorly lame excuses, partly untrue facts. Overall: just a lame trollish attempt.

OK Teioch, why don't you point out these false statements and partly untrue facts?
*TeiOch*
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2012-07-09 12:32 
"And Teioch, you need to grow the fuck up. Seriously."
-Sorry, this does not apply to me, only you.

You post has partly false statements, partly true (only because it is so obvious and obviously you are mostly not devoted to those parts), partly poorly lame excuses, partly untrue facts. Overall: just a lame trollish attempt.


Ye Daw, can you believe? I think it would have cooled down a lot sooner if we wasn't visited by trolls wanting to contribute their stinky cents......ETC
David
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2012-07-09 10:21 
wow. u still here emo
Delita
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2012-07-09 09:19 
The only thing you people need to know is that a good player isn't someone who wins a corrupt and poorly run duel tournament that contains 60% of unbalanced maps in a game that died in 2001.

A good player is someone who builds upon the game and scene. A player that refines the style of play in Quake 2. That applies new tactics, a logical approach. People like Thresh and Blue and many others were the greatest players ever in Quake 2 because we sit upon the foundations that they originally built.

Also a good player is willing to help the beginners in Quake 2. To teach them, carry them under their wing and to give them encouragement and enthusiasm. Not just to kick them from a team or a server because they unbalance the teams. Or start whining on with childish abuse because they are not so good at the game.

You people need to wake the fuck up to be honest. I actually expected more from some of you that have been playing as long as I have.

I'm a great Quake 2 player because I do all of the above. I couldn't care less about tournaments or names.

And Teioch, you need to grow the fuck up. Seriously.
*TeiOch*
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2012-07-09 01:36 
People, sil is right.
Just want to add, sil, you should not mention:

"I don't care if purri/damiah/provi/-->lolita<--"

cause that is as well pointless.


Vader is obviously a Damiah fanboy (who could not see that?).

{ GGS } ?
sil
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2012-07-08 12:11 
Oh, cmon guys...
guy1: <player_a> is better than <player_b>
guy2: no, <player_b> rocks!
guy1: stfu, he won blablabla
guy2: bullshit, <player_b> owned tournaments like....

I've been following the scene for years and I've already read same stories like a hundred times...

Whining by some fanboys... over and over again...

I don't care if purri/damiah/provi/delita is considered as the best player/dueler/instagibber/chaingunner/quadrunner ever.
All i care is the entertainment they provide. Fucking good fun they give us via their performance. You can enjoy it while drinking ur fav beer, eating pizza or whatever...

But wait, some kids are still squabbling about their favourite players. Shame on you.

Some guys quit, some guys goes inactive, some still play. Get used to it. And trying to convince others that some1 is best player ever in q2 history is pointless...
I respect the Purri bc of his ultra offensive style, Damiah for his smartness, Provi for his railgun, Wizard for his movement, David for his insanity. And love to watch demos they recorded...
Example: Imagine that Purri would face some mid-skilled player instead of Damiah during his glory-days. Would you consider Purri as the mad-skilled player then? Thank God you were able to spectate such spectacular games because of the performance quality BOTH mad-skilled players provided. And this did the trick...

Thank you

Edited: 2012-07-08 12:20
careem
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2012-07-08 02:58 
You are wrong, Purri won much more q2 1v1 tournaments than Damiah did.
Vader
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2012-07-07 02:14 
Someone said purri is not like it was in old days but I still cant forget how in finals in top shapes played Damiah against purri. It feels like purri didnt get chance to win against Dami on that time and it was 2 or more edls in a row. On that time was even rumors: with who Damiah trains his duels? cause no one really cant complete vs him? but it was other monster - provi. So imho David didnt face #1(avatar) IN TOP shape yet. Probably he will not face it since someone said it allready this oldschool players still play edl and q2 at all just to keep this game alive. As far as i know Damiah didnt have any motivation to play q2 and edl since he win all he can in q2 why he need to play it serious now and prove something again? ..and i dont think even 300euro for 1st place is 'something' to make him play 7/24 to be in top form cause in same time from simply job you will get more payment. When u win all in ur time and get borred with the game - new kings will come and take it!
I just wanted to say that in comparison of all those 3 players top shapes Damiah was best for me and if David with current shape appears on that time he will be 2nd or even 3rd ofc if purri get more luck to win him thats all.

Just to prove my words i paste this briliant comment from the past and of what i agree with 100%:
even if Damiah lost this season final
Damiah is still Best Dueler ever in history of Quake 2 = 4 times EDL winner (when all monsterstars was in top shapes)
I was astonish watch Damiah play without any practice with bad connection
i could only imagine (or remember from last EDL seasons) what would happen to 'poor' PURRI if Damiah had better connection or if he was in any better shape

i hoped Damiah could reapeat his performance 6month ago on oktoberfest cup, now against much better PURRI
but his unofficial interview 29.02.2009. was true:
(Damiah): i think i need a break from q2
(Damiah): quakelive is way more fun atm
(Damiah): i guess the lack of motivation is that ive won everything there is to win in q2
(Damiah): i dont think i have chances to win edl if i dont pracc..

I was enjoy to watch match between
Damiah (Best Dueler ever in history of q2)
vs
PURRI (Greatest player ever in history of q2)

Congrats David to win against #2 unclepurri, ggs! emo
*rl*
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2012-07-06 05:54 
that's it? cmon delita/careem...
*TeiOch*
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2012-07-05 09:51 
Finally "the heat" cooled down. emo

{ GG }
Arm0r
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2012-07-01 14:13 
This is being discussed in the USA for anyone who cares (nobody except muerte), our new country pro Haunted (lol) insists it will yield some results.

Just don't make the mistake and get misinformed because misinformation leads to the masses being misinformed...about what? Your guess is as good as mine.

http://tastyspleen.net/quake/forums/index.php?topic=19169.new#new
MCS_FaderJok0
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2012-06-29 15:20 
lol
Delita
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2012-06-29 07:51 
rl: can't stop loling. more carrem & delita MOOOOORE.

You sad cunt.
*rl*
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2012-06-29 05:19 
can't stop loling. more carrem & delita MOOOOORE.
dem
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2012-06-29 04:33 
lmao... fan boys gonna hate
Delita
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2012-06-28 13:24 
I know exactly what you are talking about Careem, I was watching the game.

Also, I saw you playing Ghoul earlier while I was browsing the servers and it looked like you were having trouble beating him. He can't be that bad surely?... emo
careem
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2012-06-28 11:49 
People do not know about who are we talking about. After few games he pretty much scored the same as you did. But this was probably cos you helped him (so you said in previous post).

If you were so good as in your golden days then you could have won us 2v1. I dunno why you always throw yourself into trash?
feeble.
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2012-06-28 07:54 
yeah, but careem knows better anyway emo
PURRI
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2012-06-28 06:28 
Careem: I was playing 2v2 with someone who has not played q2 in 12 years. I was more focused in helping him play and get him into the game than anything else. That was a bit bad comparison and my shape is not many % from my best if you would give me 1-2 games warm up emo

I don't like to defend public games, but this time you were a bit to much offside. emo

In the edl game vs David I was also warmed up and played very close to my potential. Totally different things.
careem
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2012-06-27 19:28 
Yes, I was. I can say 10times worse than his team8. After that we lost twice in a row when I was teaming with much better player than a player I played with before. As I said in previous post. Purri is not that what he used to be.
Delita
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2012-06-27 18:46 
Careem: I came back to Q2 and suddenly won him in a 2v2 game twice in a row and my m8 was much worse.

Was he? emo
careem
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2012-06-27 15:06 
lochemel big plus for you! This is what I was trying to say. Including with purri we can add provi damiah and syanid for sure. I can't compare David to them in their golden days. It's just sad what are polish defenders saying. I'm not even try to bother and argue with them, but I had to reply on your comment which deserves a big plus.

Purri is not what he was. Just played the other day when I came back to Q2 and suddenly won him in a 2v2 game twice in a row and my m8 was much worse. After few games he started to play better and better, but this is really not REAL purri, not for me. I know him and I know what he is cabale of. Same goes for damiah!
MCS_FaderJok0
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2012-06-25 22:53 
That's pretty fucked up, Delita.
lochemel
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2012-06-25 11:04 
Being a retired quake 2 player currently playing ql.. i have to say i was kinda surprised with the lvl of the current duel scene.
Don't want to bash the polska scene in any sense.. for what i've seen David seems to be the fair champion and for sure the one who deserves it more due to his dedication to the game.
Regarding the cheating i don't know if he did some suspicious things in the past because i don't follow the scene but i didn't see anything at all during the games.
Was kinda surprised aswell with Purri .. and he already stated he hasn't played much in recent years so i don't thing he will consider it offensive but.. i've seen him play alot better in the past.. i mean you see him miss alot of easy easy rails that the rail whore he was would never miss in the past.
Aswell his chaingun seemed very off compared to his golden days.
Just saying and i think it's really normal that this happens because he plays ql now very often and quake 3 is a really different game.. even rail is so different so it's pretty understandable.

Still .. good games and deserved win for David.
Delita
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2012-06-25 10:06 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ak3z2Pm7Iwg
PURRI
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2012-06-25 05:47 
Some of you need to chill down a bit and just enjoy and realise that we still have a somewhat active community that can bring these kind of feelings and games still today... emo

David has beaten everyone this season and that also includes me 2x times. This means very simple, that he won the EDL title 2012 and for sure is the champion this season.

I must say that I'm very happy with some of my own games in this final and in particular my ztn2 and even rdm5. Not only since I won those maps, but I really felt that I played well so my form was for sure not crap as some of you might think. But I was also very unhappy that I could not perform on koldduel1 for instance.

There is no secret that perhaps I don't play much the last years, but that does not change the fact that David has improved and is currently better than everyone else who participated in this league.

It's not David's (or anyone else's) fault that me or anyone else from the 'old school' players don't practise enough or any other excuse for that matter. This is just poor mentality from you who think otherwise. We have tournaments so we can define a winner and this is how we all like to compete in Quake and other sports as well.

This is normal in all games, sports and competitions in both lower and higher level. New players will eventually become champions and it's time we realise we have one instead of flaming his performance. I know it's easier to flame than to praise, but please try to realise that we are not that many of us left and all the negative atmosphere and arguing with each other is not helping to motivate players to continue after the summer break.

I'm of course unhappy that I did not win, as I always try to win when the countdown has started! But I do smile when I think that someone that barely was born when this game was released is now the champion emo

Edited: 2012-06-25 06:07
Delita
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2012-06-24 23:30 
"Most people have to act the roles given to them. Then again, most of them haven't even noticed they're acting." -Delita Hyral
feeble.
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2012-06-24 13:20 
well, i've just spotted that q2scene is not dead and some serious games were played, nice emo

i've watched almost all the demos from the final and read some comments

what is my conclusion? lots of noobish and ignorant ppl writing here, who still have the image of mighty legendary players that can't be beaten by a guy like David in normal circumstances
I don't want to argue/discuss and I won't but I have to say I'm REALLY IMPRESSED by David's performance in the final...
man, I've been watching these demos for years now, seen syanid, damiah, provi and the rest of top legendary duelers and now I can say that David joined the crew...
I've never seen a polish dueler playing that good as David, the strategy/wisdom/movement/AIM is totally awesome. You ppl say that he plays all the time and purri isn't active and not in top shape? maan..just saw ztn2 from purri's pov, hitting almost every rail, mad as hell..this guy is a complete q2 freak, for me - the best player ever. What i saw, was his really top shape, I couldn't even imagine to play better..
You ppl are weird or jelous or just blind, not to notice how perfect David's performance was. Careem wrote that Provi/Damiah/Syanid would beat David easily 3:0 in their best days. Well I think you're just naive and narrow-minded to write such bullshit. As far as I'm concerned, David would stand a chance with every dueler in the whole history, playing like in this edl final (i haven't seen earlier games..)

I won't discuss with ppl, that's my opinion and I think every player who knows the topic well, will share this opinion

congrats David, I'm really impressed man, pjona! emo
same to purri, great play in the final!

Edited: 2012-06-24 13:23
faint
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2012-06-23 17:39 
rotfl D;
MCS_FaderJok0
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2012-06-23 15:50 
"everyplayer had the same chance to practice and do best."

hahahahaha
dem
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2012-06-23 06:39 
the most funy part here is fact that not purri or david complain about the result and skill/shape... some low/medium playes argue about someones title and talk shit that 5 years ago someone was in better shape.

omg... its 2012, and what took place in the past stays in the past.

get over it that now we have new champion. and gtfo if u cant understand it... everyplayer had the same chance to practice and do best.

retards.

and once again, gg purri & david. u played awsome euro-duel-final emo

Edited: 2012-06-23 06:39
Z1on
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2012-06-23 04:01 
This topic its not about u british talking moron...
Its about edl,something u dont understand ,and clearly dont have skillz for it emo So u can go practice to gain half of Purri or Davidi skillz in duels emo emo

Edited: 2012-06-23 04:02
Delita
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2012-06-22 23:03 
Wow, we have 2 major non-english speaking nob heads who are really bad at quake 2 (teichio, zion) trying to own this thread.
*TeiOch*
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2012-06-22 20:42 
Delete, oh one of your precious screenshoots, ey? So stupid.... emo U really think purri played hard on you that game, like he does in edl when he totally raped u in edl-9. He was just prolly chilling the game, tired... whatever reason, u have no chance against him "in reality". And u prolly even cheated that game.... playing innocent accusing others to cheat. Low-lifer...

Don't wanna go down to ur ridiculous level deciding for your own who knows more q2 than another. u dont know much shit about me, in fact. I played it before u did, cuz it wasnt even in the stores when i first played! now taste that!! i might be the oldest player of all here. How is that possible? Irrelevant right now..
But just wanna add that just because someone might be "more active" doesn't necessarily mean that person knows more about q2. Ceba and I are in div.4, this sense we are the kind of same player (knowing bits of things differently, for instance Ceba is a killer when it comes to ffa, I think I know more about jumps etc etc.). But like I said, I won't bash ceba or anything. Good Delete, keep this up, even Ceba will eventually dislike the way u talk about other people, who they are, how they think, how good they play .... stop fucking play god! And you just bring his name up in vain!

Teioch - Delete: 2:0
MCS_FaderJok0
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2012-06-22 14:51 
I think it matters in a league if people are playing at the top of their game.
Z1on
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2012-06-22 14:41 
No its not! FJK ,like Miami Heat are the NBA champions,no one cares ,OKC Thunder in what shape are!LIke FC Chelsea in champions league ,no one cares in what shape or condition was Byern Munich ,for one year they are on top,like David on quake 2 Duel League! So STFU!
MCS_FaderJok0
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2012-06-22 14:38 
"David is on top ,and doesnt metter who is on great shape or not!"

Actually, it does. lol
*rl*
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2012-06-22 14:38 
as far as i know david beat everyone in edl10 (purri twice bo3 & once bo5, and damiah once), and didn't lose a single game...
Z1on
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2012-06-22 14:34 
You people are going deliusional ....
Delita is trying to convince us he is better than Purri and he should be the king of quake 2 emo Actually he need some attention , like a little bitch kido who is starving for hes mother tits!
FJK or no one cant take the moment from David victory ,not Debilita-Duchovny,not Murte-Dayna Scully,not razorass the Extraterrestrial kaputt cheater...! Go to F*CK oFF.For One Year David is on top ,and doesnt metter who is on great shape or not!Thats Belong to him 2012 q2 duel CHAMPION!Like it or not.... emo

Edited: 2012-06-22 14:35
MCS_FaderJok0
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2012-06-22 14:21 
Even though David's play against Purri in this match was VERY impressive, he's certainly not the best duelIST in the world. Against people like Damiah (in full shape), provi, syanid, and all the other previous pros in their full shape, it would be a different story. Saying David is the absolute best without actually BEATING the best is fucking retarded. (No offense to David, though.)
Delita
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2012-06-22 14:04 
You mean like this....?
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/191/winskg.jpg/

TeiOch... Ceba knows more about Quake than you...

Enough said.

Edited: 2012-06-22 14:11
*TeiOch*
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2012-06-22 11:28 
Nublita said: "And Purri never was the champion... I am."

The most pathetic stupido comment I've heard from you yet. And actually, you are wrong nub, dem be right. ATM David is the King. EDL is smth u would never understand anyway, as u never really seriously participated, just trolled along u messed up fuck. Get the fuck lost. emo

Everyone had time to shape up for this (extra) long EDL, tho many thought it was too long to keep that shape fresh (partly agree). Well even Purri said David was the better player, he said so after the games if, so it seems, many of you missed to read. I have said it before, if you don't really give yourself into the league (seriously!) and practice, learn the maps fully (damiah..) etc. etc. u can't really complain....only thing might be the extensive time the league was hold, that may have been an option not all were able to play at an even level..

Careem be right about QL tho, and nublita got it all wrong again. QL is so much way different from Q2....and the focking troll calls it the same game only coz it has the same NAME?!?!? WTF. That's so stupid. Ye another Quake game.....but totally different. Rails are way easier in QL/Q3A than in q2, obvious to most people with some sense.. And the movemtns is a bit focked up in ql, especially *jumps* emo playing there might shape up only a fraction of the required feeling u play in q2; like some of the aim... but generally it may even downgrade the q2 skills coz ur playing a totally different game that has other PHYSICS. U only talk down to careem, nublita, cuz he once owned you and u can still not get over it. and then u suddenly think you are the best player that ever existed, the no.1 - true in a sense: the no.1 troll - and think you can win purri for example?!
Isb, purri, damiah, david, norman........ would rape u hard in edl, but u never dare to go far enough to meet them, isn't that so? oh wait, u once met purri in edl yez, a perfect game on dm1 (total rape) purri won with like 32 - 0, and then rdm2 with like 38 - 1 (u got one frag - gratz).

ATM: David is the best Dueler - YEZ!!
Delita
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2012-06-22 10:10 
dude, did I ask for such nonsense? Ive just said that dav is best q2 dueler ATM bc he WON edl... which part u dont, or cant understand?

dont reply, i dont want to repeat myself once again.

GET OVER THAT PURRI IS NO LONGER Q2 CHAMPION IN Q2 DUEL, bc afeter final he is NO2.

^^^^^^^

Yeah, just like Iraq had weapons of mass destruction? Things are not always what they seem. It's not as black and white as just winning an EDL tournament.

And Purri never was the champion... I am.
dem
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2012-06-22 08:11 
"And dem, that's just a stupid shallow comment that doesn't hold any weight at all. I don't support any players but I can tell you that in terms of talent and ability, David isn't a better player than Purri."

^^^
dude, did I ask for such nonsense? Ive just said that dav is best q2 dueler ATM bc he WON edl... which part u dont, or cant understand?

dont reply, i dont want to repeat myself once again.

GET OVER THAT PURRI IS NO LONGER Q2 CHAMPION IN Q2 DUEL, bc afeter final he is NO2.

retards.
Delita
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2012-06-22 07:11 
Careem: Michaq, he is not even playing QL. Ql comparing to Q2 is like comparing unreal tournament to doom3. Totally different games.

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Are you just really THAT stupid Careem? Quakelive is just a commercialised version of a Quake game you dimwit. It is watered down and newbie friendly because it was originally pointed at the masses. It's like comparing World of Warcraft to Everquest. One is shallow and simplified but with a more modern design to 'feel' better. The other is more difficult with a lot of depth but older so it feels harder to control and master.

Moving to Quakelive was a poor choice on behalf of a lot of quake players now Careem... and after playing there for a couple of months I know a lot of ex-quake 2 players think so.

And dem, that's just a stupid shallow comment that doesn't hold any weight at all. I don't support any players but I can tell you that in terms of talent and ability, David isn't a better player than Purri.

emo emo emo emo

Edited: 2012-06-22 07:12
dem
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2012-06-22 06:49 
haters gonna hate...

atm david is BEST q2-duel player. Im confused when all whiners write sth like that

"yes, david won game, but still purri is the best dueler bc he plays less then dav"

WOOT. what a bullshit... purri was best dueler till now. NOW its david, and its not important that purri is less active then david.

GET OVER IT.

gg dav, gg purri, u played awsome duel matches.
careem
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2012-06-22 03:25 
Michaq, he is not even playing QL. Ql comparing to Q2 is like comparing unreal tournament to doom3. Totally different games.
MCS_FaderJok0
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2012-06-21 15:28 
What "problems"?
Delita
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2012-06-21 11:02 
Michaq: All players in divisions 1-2 have in their lives for some period of playing 7-8 hours a day, thats the reason they have reached this level. Careem I remember when you played constantly.

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People play that much and are still only that good? I think you just proved my whole point about judging players on talent Michaq, thanks.

Careem, be quiet. You don't support the Quake 2 scene at all and you're an ass hole with a bad attitude. Also, I spotted a number of problems with the 'videos' David posted already anyway so I wouldn't bet your left nut that he isn't cheating yet.

emo emo emo emo
*rl*
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2012-06-21 07:51 
careem = delita.
k1ra
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2012-06-21 06:22 
Good game!
Dav, gratz emo
Purri, keep playing, q2 scene needs u emo
michaq
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2012-06-21 05:35 
Decide whether David plays 24 hours a day, or 15?
Yes, he is active, as often happens when someone starts play late, and quickly begins to play successful.
All players in divisions 1-2 have in their lives for some period of playing 7-8 hours a day, thats the reason they have reached this level. Careem I remember when you played constantly, everywhere and with all, and after each match you just upload your demo at ds.
I watched the games purri-isb, purri-dav. I don't see any purris lack of skill or skills atrophy. What's more purris rg has never felt so good. If you don't believe, check demo of the match against Isbjorn at ptrip.
Maybe he doesnt play q2 3-4 hours a day, but as far I am concern he plays ql a lot. So he is still in game.

Edited: 2012-06-21 05:38
Pomidor
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2012-06-21 02:33 
Well said, CAREEM.
careem
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2012-06-20 16:21 
I was reading previous comments @ david damiah game.

David is not a cheater. He is the most active player in Q2scene. He plays with his real / fake nick 24/7 every day. It doesnt matter if I check Quake2 after two years, after a year, after few months, after few weeks or even after a day. I will always see david playing Q2. So no wonder he won damiah and purri.

Need to point out especially for poles. Oldschool players are here to support q2scene not to practice or to prove again that they are the best. We all know who are the best players, who dominated 3/4 of leagues. (Provi, purri, damiah). And now... If they pracced daily at least 1h Q2 then they could easy beat 3:0 david, which is playing q2 daily 15hours...
Durklas
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2012-06-20 15:01 
so where is the muerte fucktarded NOOB now ?
calling david a cheater ?
HA ?
muerte u idiot , failed did ya ? big time mtf pc a shite!
gzero
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2012-06-19 13:15 
Thanks for all league's administrators & players! One more amazing season!
st!gmata
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2012-06-18 04:46 
clash of titans. this time david was stronger than "galiath". anyway purri was awesome as always. still best rail imho, and spectacular moveing. gj guys. will glad to see you next edl.

Edited: 2012-06-18 04:49
Luki
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2012-06-17 03:56 
GG Davidos ! emo
*TeiOch*
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2012-06-16 21:40 
+1 faint, and let me repeat: get lost nublita and eat some more nubcakes, u seem to like 'em.
ceba
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2012-06-16 14:28 
Seems like a good game emo
And now wheres is razor and the rest who where accusing David?
MCS_FaderJok0
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2012-06-16 12:32 
rofl
Delita
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2012-06-16 11:21 
Isn't it funny how people only ever beat me when I'm either drunk or haven't played for months.

And people who keep condump files, pictures and demos are just sad little nerds. I suppose it's the only thing you can do against the might of Myrmidon, not Delita.
Barton
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2012-06-16 09:42 
Finally saw the stream...gj jehar, welk and brzn.

Congrads David. Well deserved!

Gravgon
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2012-06-16 06:51 
Congrats David! And total respect for the video recording emo
*rl*
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2012-06-16 04:13 
http://i50.tinypic.com/4t28oz.jpg

read and learn nuuuuubz. btw when the score was like ~15-0, delita turned into teaching-mode, and then left the server.
t0mmy
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2012-06-16 03:38 
Delite, seriously you have a problem with the head and erection ... David the best in the world dueler !! Polska !!

Edited: 2012-06-16 03:40
faint
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2012-06-15 22:12 
delita please get lost emo
Delita
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2012-06-15 21:31 
David isn't a dueler... he's just someone we refined power playing to its finest... hes just a better version of numa. Even damiah said, it seems like an intense warm up game.

You won't find many duelers these days.
magnata
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2012-06-15 19:53 
Great Game!

Thanks for the stream too!
n00k1e
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2012-06-15 16:23 
Great game!

Think about all the extra pressure that David put on himself by recording his games on the camera. By winning this game he has not only proved that he is the best duel player in 2012 but he also cleared himself(once for good) from any cheating accusations. [case closed]

GG Purri, GG David emo

Edited: 2012-06-15 16:28
*rl*
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2012-06-15 16:21 
so quiet in here hahah

ggwp
MCS_FaderJok0
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2012-06-15 13:20 
<myr^> purri turned on delita mode
<myr^> emo
<xray> he playing bad?
<xray> or what?
<myr^> no
<myr^> hes playing smart
<xray> then its not delita mode
<myr^> yeah ok
<xray> its purri mode
michaq
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2012-06-15 10:56 
btw. the most fun moment in whole camera-material is at 3:54, 5/9 part ;]
rolnick
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2012-06-15 08:51 
Veni, vidi, vici!

GG Duvid!
michaq
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2012-06-15 06:36 
Muerte, do u still thinks that David have cheated?

Edited: 2012-06-15 06:38
Welkin
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2012-06-15 05:39 
david's camera recording now published, making the links section complete.
pr0to
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2012-06-15 04:51 
Akella missed emo
fiziu
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2012-06-15 04:36 
brawo m&#322;ody v3 rz&#261;dzi !
flap
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2012-06-14 23:34 
ggs, what a game on rdm5! wow
Z1on
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2012-06-14 21:07 
GG Both! Congrats Davideek emo! Mind blowing game! Just RAW! emo
`norman
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2012-06-14 20:10 
great games, gg both.

insane game by david on kold (despite the score it was really tight), but the same goes for purri at rdm5 and ztn2. prolly the best map performance this season.

http://www.own3d.tv/TastyspleenTV

^ VODS ^

I would like to also thanks Welkin, Ceba and everyone who participated/helped/enjoyed this season. It was great!

Great stuff on coverage by Jehar, Welkin and brzn! Really the game above is a must seen with the casting.

Welkin
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2012-06-14 19:48 
david: lol, "thanks [...] see ya" is not want i'm reading from your middle finger at the end of the recordings ;D
David
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2012-06-14 18:20 
gg, thanks for a nice leagues. see ya emo
[qwes]
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2012-06-14 18:09 
GG emo
*TeiOch*
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2012-06-14 17:36 
A great show! thanks guys, and david gratz for the first(?) polish edl gold in top division!
t0mmy
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2012-06-14 17:34 
gg David!
michaq
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2012-06-14 17:33 
Thanks to David and purri, for some awesome show! great games! fucking amazing ; ] emo emo emo
*TeiOch*
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2012-06-14 15:32 
-_=----[ THE MATCH HAS BEGUN ]----=_-
Pomidor
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2012-06-14 10:19 
GL PURRI emo
Barton
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2012-06-13 23:59 
TeiOch: I don't think that excitement from watching it live by yourself will last very long, compared watching it with other spectators or friends.
MCS_FaderJok0
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2012-06-13 16:51 
My original point still stands, though.

There needs to be an admin present in the GTV server during the match. I myself am not that interested in viewing a match through GTV. If other people do, though, I'll be glad to help. Obviously people like to see a match live through GTV rather than see it through a stream. If nobody wanted to see a match through GTV, then we wouldn't have a GTV server in the first place. Almost every grand final there it has always over a hundred spectators in the GTV server, and if one or two people make the GTV server less fun, then that's not fair to anybody. Like I said before, I'll moderate the GTV server if Ceba or Welkin cannot do so, because there does NEED to be an admin present in the server.
Z1on
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2012-06-13 16:32 
Than who needs admins ceba if u cant make GTV server safe for 1 game (not regular game...its WB final ) Ban razor = 80% of the spam is reduced.
Nothing clear pomidor:
1.The only clear thing will be if Welkin talked to hes homie to stfu,and 100 % the HOMMO boy do it.
2.Yes stream is an option,but is low quality.Thats why GTV is the best ! Not good connection will make people go off also.



Edited: 2012-06-13 16:38
Pomidor
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2012-06-13 16:30 
Fader, you want doing an administrative work during game or simply watch... Administrative work (if it really needed) on gtv should provide the man who have no interest for q2, imho

dunno, why wrote this shit. Ceba and Welkin already cleared the situation.

Edited: 2012-06-13 16:32
ceba
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2012-06-13 16:01 
Your choice - gtv full of spam or stream with commentary.
Z1on
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2012-06-13 15:57 
If stream is equal to quality of the GTV i will ceba....
But i dont think so....
ceba
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2012-06-13 15:39 
Then dont use gtv. Watch stream.
Fader - you are a funny one.

Edited: 2012-06-13 15:41
MCS_FaderJok0
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2012-06-13 12:27 
Ignore doesn't work in GTV very good, especially not for the spam that's been going on. Besides, there's bound to be people who don't use clients that make use of the "ignore" command. That's why there needs to be an admin present in the server; so that someone can still talk and banter about the match without having to ignore everyone. I will take up this responsibility if nobody else will. emo
pr0to
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2012-06-13 12:18 
ztn2dm2 plz emo purri gl
*TeiOch*
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2012-06-13 10:00 
" then it would be no different from just watching the demos later." u be wrong Barton. If u watch demoz later u will have known what maps were played, and prolly who won the whole thing.... the only thing that will be new would be all awesume frags... but what about seeing a match live? When u see that frag live, u know it just happen directly as u see it, u watched when it happen on the spot! Way different from watching on demoz later.
I actually like to mute All on gtv servers because i think ppl chat way too much anyway, disturbing the games. And yea it may feel like watching demos, but not really: cuz u know it is L!ve!!! (and i only mute gtv spectators, not from the real server - i like u can do that! -as they don't spam anyway)
my thoughts.
Z1on
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2012-06-13 08:38 
Well sayd Barton. emo
Barton
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2012-06-13 06:25 
Does /ignore "playername" ignore by ip or by name? I never used it before so I'm not sure how it works. It would be a pain if the spammer changes his name, or reconnects to the server to change his player id in order to override the mutes.

One of the cool things about gtv is being able to give or listen to other people's opinions while matches unfold. If I watch gtv with /ignore all, then it would be no different from just watching the demos later. Just my thoughts.
Z1on
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2012-06-13 05:19 
This sounds not serious at all Welkin...
Do u think that will stop the Parasite a.k.a razorass the kaputt from spamming?! What a Grand Final will be for the spectators .?.Do we need to type ignore every time we are in servers with the Parasite and hope to work?! All he do is to be a plague for the small q2 community left...
U want new ppl - Ban the Parasite from every server!
+1 FatherJoker emo

Edited: 2012-06-13 05:26
Welkin
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2012-06-13 05:03 
if you wish to not listen to an observer's spam on the GTV, use the 'ignore' command. for example: "ignore welkin". or just use the inventory/menu to ignore all.
Barton
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2012-06-13 04:03 
Yeah, I really hope there's some admin action for the gtv server. Last time it was David vs Purri, one or two guys were spamming it up pretty bad.

gl hf
MCS_FaderJok0
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2012-06-12 20:44 
I demand Welkin make me the admin for the GTV server. I will kick anybody disrupting the server. Thank you.
Z1on
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2012-06-12 17:53 
Gl Both ! emo
keep Razor away from every server (GTV) BANN RAZOR!
t0mmy
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2012-06-12 08:13 
David FTW !! emo
Welkin
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2012-06-11 16:49 
sofiene: i'm already in touch with jehar, and i'm probably co-shouting it with him.
da-be-da
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2012-06-11 14:39 
yeah,go PURRI emo
[cr]jordan
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2012-06-11 13:57 
Go Go Purri emo emo
sofiene
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2012-06-11 12:30 
ill ask jehar when i see him around , if not , maybe norman can do the stream and ill try to cast it ( maybe someone can cast it with me to make it more fun and enjoyable to watch ), ill keep you updated.

P.S : yo tei emo
S-10
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2012-06-11 05:51 
emo David GL

Edited: 2012-06-11 05:57
ceba
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2012-06-10 17:17 
Well if not jehar then maybe Norman could stream and some volunteers comment emo
Pity I wont see this game live.
Good luck
*TeiOch*
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2012-06-10 12:45 
And plz... some one get Jehar for this event!? If he cant stream the games, maybe he can then just stream audio? And u can listen to it while in game. =)
*TeiOch*
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2012-06-10 12:37 
thank god this wasn't played today or i would have missed it!

Thursday it is! Welkin, u should post a news about this. =) (and the same should be done in the other divisions for the grand Finals, too bad it didn't happen for div4, but maybe they played it before you had a chance, I would guess.)

This final should have a locked server too. And a GTV for "ordinary" specs ofc.

To the winner I will send a PM right after regarding my "external" prize. GL emo
David
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2012-06-10 12:03 
We agreed for Thursday, 21:15CET.
PURRI
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2012-06-10 09:53 
Tuesday 21.30CET?
Vibez
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2012-06-09 09:19 
gl mlody emo
David
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2012-06-08 17:22 
i cant play this weekend. what you think about first days of next week?
PURRI
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2012-06-07 18:50 
Yep, Sunday evening is good. If you can, pick a time from 19-21CET.
Welkin
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2012-06-07 18:38 
david, how about playing this on sunday night? purri said that would work well for him.

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