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	EDL #20 IRC: #EDL \| Demos: http://demos.q2players.org Sign ups: off

Closing-in-on-the-season-news

2012-09-24 05:58 | Welkin

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1) Demo Uploading Site

We're very sad to say that the new demo site for this season is being delayed. mobius is helping us develop it, and he needs alittle more time. Hopefully we'll be able to introduce it before the end of October.

Meanwhile, the players shall send their demos to the EDL email (one zip/rar file per match, containing all maps), and we'll make them available on some sort of webspace where they're easily browsable and downloadable. The URL to said webspace will be announced shortly.

We chose not to go back to old Demosquad even for this short period, because we have promised not to burden the players with the hassle that uploading to DS means. Email is easier and less time consuming for you.

2) Rules

The forum thread for rule suggestions and feedback has now been closed. There were a couple of good ideas, which we discussed among the Crew. Our response is to be found in the last post of the thread.

The rule sheet in use for the start of the season has now been published. Click "rules" in the menu to the left to access it.

3) Map Pool

The map pool vote has now been closed. This is the EDL #11 map pool:

q2dm1, q2dm2, q2dm3, ztn2dm2, ztn2dm3, ptrip, q2duel1, q2duel5, q2rdm1, q2rdm2, q2rdm7

4) Supervisors

If you've read the rule sheet, you might have noticed we have something called Supervisors this year (which replaced last season's Advisers). The EDL #11 Supervisors are:

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wision,

syanid &

quadz.

5) Red List

The first three names to be placed on the Red List have now been announced. Access the Red List by clicking "articles" in the menu to the left.

The Red List document shall contain the reason why the player is added, and what the result of it shall be. It will be updated shortly with the information it's missing.

6) Prize Money

It is now obvious that this year's prize funds for the EDL will be very small. So if you're participating for the money, you might want to reconsider. Doubt anyone is though.

Comments

TeiOch	2012-09-29 19:08
	purri's issue was not his time, but with this map pool of this season ... I doubt he would sign up EDL if he hadn't got any time for it. And ppl will always drop out, nothiung we can do about it really. And not everyone can know the future exactly, they have the time to play when they sign-up, then smth unexpected could happen resulting to quit or "simply ignore" their participation of the league. But ultimately ofc the best would be if everyone participate and play their games: from start > finish.
MCS_FaderJok0	2012-09-29 17:11
	If David can't find time to play, then he shouldn't sign up. This goes for EVERYONE, including purri. If you don't have time to play, don't sign up.
TeiOch	2012-09-29 16:59
	Some one blaming David for cheats all the time, I shurely can understand why he didn't wanna join another season. To polish ppl: is douchlita still an entertaining guy? ... (i thought as much)
Delita	2012-09-29 14:06
	i dont see David in the sign up list!? ^^^^ His hacks broke...
da-be-da	2012-09-29 11:28
	just put koldduel1 instead of dm2,remove q2rdm7 and q2rdm1 and its all good to go. i dont see David in the sign up list!? Edited: 2012-09-29 11:29
MCS_FaderJok0	2012-09-26 16:06
	Lacking of common sense would be signing up for a league and then quitting 2 weeks in because you never thought about your actual life beforehand.
cowb0y	2012-09-26 16:05
	5 maps sounds about right. my suggestion is that you remove dm1 and dm2 and dm3 and what else
TeiOch	2012-09-26 16:00
	purri : any change of mind? I mean, u never had an absolute decision, but what is your take in this today?
BASSHUNTER	2012-09-26 15:43
	Faderjocko, why are u talking about common sense here as if these ppl ever had any?
Delita	2012-09-26 13:41
	Dimwit isn't even a real word. It's a classic English slang word for someone who is slow or stupid. So the fact that you failed to Google the word before you opened your big mouth Numa proves that you are a dimwit.
MCS_FaderJok0	2012-09-26 13:08
	+1 salata
Z1on	2012-09-26 12:15
	Debilita how poor and dumb can u be to compare real time strategy (SC2) with first-person shooter (Q2) u must be the retarded person in the universe dumb - dumber - dumbest - DELITA ..... Edited: 2012-09-26 12:17
duco	2012-09-26 11:23
	[Kinex wrote: And one more thing: Imo, there is no EDL without at least Purri and Damiah Indeed, but also the winner(s) - defending champion - of last season should be in: David.
kinezu	2012-09-26 10:15
	I d like to see some season of EDL with a maplist number of 5-8 maps max. 5 old maps + 1 2 or 3 new/unnplayed maps. This way we might see new or innactive players signin up cause its pretty hard for a newcomer(even oldschool) to learn to play a high number of maps and as someone pointed the quality of games would be better since everybody will focus to learn fewer maps. Timers its kinda hard to be banned actualy it will result in more work and headakes for the admins and not only, suspectin everytime any game and have useless conversations about: did he/she used timers or not? Tho, a quick league without timers would just help a bit in seeing if its really a big difference and if its worth the change. Also about divisions... This is kinda good and bad at the same time. Imo there should be only 3 divisions : div3= rookies/newcomers or innactive 2000s players div2= this division would include almost the most of the q2 players wich are medium/high skilled players / I say that its better to mix div2/div3 into one division cause there is not to much difference in players level since in the period of the league ppl pracc and improve their level pretty much from the begginin and many from so called div3 are already div2, and this alot before group stage ends. div1= this would be the elite division in wich a handful of well knewn players would have the honor to attend in. Ofc i would also like to see matches between every division champions or top3 from these, once edl ends. I would call it like one day champions league. Also i would like to see how would be ztn2 with bfg on. Bfg aint that powerfull weapon if u dont know how to use it. Its pretty slow and it requiers alot knowledge from players. Also i m thinkin it will be more spectacular. And one more thing: Imo, there is no EDL without at least Purri and Damiah so i hope these guys will play the whole season just for sake of q2scene even if we all know they are not as active as before, its always great to see them playing, for me its like watchin real madrid/barcelona match. gracias
st1gmata	2012-09-26 09:47
	2 TeiOch Nice presentation jingle Teo! We need video for this...
MCS_FaderJok0	2012-09-26 09:47
	I think you all are losing touch of your common sense.
st1gmata	2012-09-26 09:35
	damiah in signups list. glad to see what! more spectacular games comming...
NumaveZi	2012-09-26 09:35
	Delita learned a new word! "dimwit"
Delita	2012-09-26 08:36
	2) U cant compare StarCraft2 & Quake2 in any way, shape, or form mirr..... rofl Are you really THAT stupid? You can compare any game because factors like balance and natural ability are universal you fucking dimwit. That's probably one of the most stupid things I've ever heard in my life z1on, seriously.
Z1on	2012-09-26 06:10
	1) And if this is the so called "Regeneration Manifesto" ,there must be new maps & some classics old maps.For me personally i would like kindly to ask to be included q2rdm5 & Koldduel1 2) U cant compare StarCraft2 & Quake2 in any way, shape, or form mirr..... rofl 3) Definitely 7 + maps, have to agree here with Ceba Edited: 2012-09-26 06:11
TeiOch	2012-09-25 19:54
	Hey, wouldn't it be cool if a EDL Season would be presented sort of like this. http://www20.zippyshare.com/v/52596542/file.html ""Instead there are dimwits like Teioch who can't even post a comment without mentioning me. I'm starting to think he has a lot of jealously of me."" Loooooooool, u made the impossible possible; in rare cases, Trolls can be rather funny. But..! Don't start to feel too satisfied now. Oh ya, for shure, I mention you out of jealousy!!! Or could it be.... that I saw you straight through years ago for what you really are. I can't help most feeble minded people here doesn't realize what you are really here for. If they had - instead - listened to me years ago, about getting rid of you, then q2scene and its leagues would run so much easier and harmonious. Go back to your cave.
Delita	2012-09-25 19:23
	There is two problems with that Ceba... 1. It doesn't matter if one or two people don't know the map. You need to look at the whole community. koldduel1 is probably the most unknown map in the list I presented but the reason it is there is because it is by far one of the better designed and balanced maps available. This in turn outweighs and counters shite like ptrip which is just a capitalists map for spawn raping. 2. Skill actually isn't even reflected until people have some knowledge of their environment. A good example of this is recently in Starcraft 2 I said to Rev 'I can't really use any tactical skill until I know the game a bit better'. It is the same in Quake 2. Map manipulation can't even begin to be introduced until players have some knowledge of a map. Other than that it would come down to luck and spam which doesn't make a very interesting or accurate tournament. Edited: 2012-09-25 19:24
ceba	2012-09-25 19:17
	Someone wrote about learning a lot of news maps. I think all the players, or atleast most, would have to learn new maps. So noone gains any advantage. When both players dont know a map it will depend on skills (movement, aim, etc) and speed of learning, not just running same old path in well know maps. So better players should still win. And new maps wont be played that much, everyone will play same old maps, and you basically get your 5 maps map pool Well thats my opinion. And also maybe this way you will find some new map that you will like? Edited: 2012-09-25 19:20
Delita	2012-09-25 19:16
	What I find stranger is why Delito is accepted to participate once again and troll the tournament ? Hope thou admins will just remove him once the Divisions are set up. It's easy for them. ^^^^ By all means do so. Only makes my life a lot easier. If the admins would have stopped being so stubborn and arrogant and listened to my advise a long time ago, this league could have been really good... even attracted a lot of new players. Instead there are dimwits like Teioch who can't even post a comment without mentioning me. I'm starting to think he has a lot of jealously of me. Edited: 2012-09-25 19:17
TeiOch	2012-09-25 18:51
	..actually, for those wanted koldduel1 in the map pool, why was there only a handful votes in the official voting forum thread? U all had the chance to influence the outcome. Actually, let me do the count....... "only" 35% of current participants voted, say 40% since some might have joined after the votes closed down. So that is 60% not leaving their say in this matter. the People truly decided this outcome ... can the People really be blamed then? However I think I support the idea to have fewer maps to choose from. It's actually really hard for virtually anyone to stay in shape on great many maps at once. What I find stranger is why Delito is accepted to participate once again and troll the tournament ? Hope thou admins will just remove him once the Divisions are set up. It's easy for them. Sad to hear what purri is feeling and saying....for the sake of q2, and edl, really hope he will reconsider. But good job on Admins not banning timers.....jezus....that would actually be more unfair. No matter how powerful tool developed to scan for any sort of external program used, like in my case, it would not matter. I will not say how, but I could do it externally quite effortlessly. If timers would be banned., then heck get rid of Bright skin and modified packs etc. ....See? very realistic.... and beside, one can't come with such groundbreaking changes so far in to game like QII. Certain things should sat as they always were. So yea, I could esily continue to time all my pickups.....whilst many others wouldn't have the same opportunity. At least with timers, all have the same chance........
st1gmata	2012-09-25 18:00
	e11ven
MCS_FaderJok0	2012-09-25 17:51
	Also, I want to point out, European Duel League Ellven?
duco	2012-09-25 15:54
	dm2: hmm comment removed :-) Edited: 2012-09-26 11:16
Delita	2012-09-25 15:05
	dm1, dm3, ztn2dm2, duel5, rdm2, koldduel1 That is the most balanced duel map list you will find. It is also the perfect amount of maps for a tournament. Everything else is just static and noise. On a side note, you don't want to 'introduce' or use 'uncommon' maps in a tournament like this. Think about it, using maps that pretty much everyone knows to some extent will produce a more fair, and more entertaining and satisfying tournament over all. Edited: 2012-09-25 15:08
MCS_FaderJok0	2012-09-25 15:01
	my dream maplist: dm1, ztn2dm3, ptrip, q2rdm2, aerowalk.
sheFF	2012-09-25 09:13
	totally agree with damiah and basshunter, there is noneed to add weird maps like kolduel, most of q2 scene now is adult and have no time like few years ago to master new maps
Damiah	2012-09-25 08:54
	I like the current mappool more than previous one and it really made me to think about joinin.. and I agree with basshunter, there are too many maps in the mappool. 5 maps is enough.
careem	2012-09-25 08:45
	Well I never played kold (quitted q2 when this map came out) so I prefer dm2
BASSHUNTER	2012-09-25 06:59
	Why do u always have 100 maps in the mappool? Noone will have motivation to master them all and that results in 100-0 games. Just look at any other league with max 5 maps mappool. Less maps equals more even and quality games. Edited: 2012-09-25 07:01
kinezu	2012-09-25 01:37
	i think among the current maplist, koldduel1 should be added. We could call it an popular vote. Not to many ppl had a chance to vote so imo koldduel1 shoulnd be excluded
MCS_FaderJok0	2012-09-24 16:53
	rdm7 dm2
PURRI	2012-09-24 16:07
	Worst map pool in edl history? This is my general opinion but also agree that it's weird that koldduel1 is not in map pool when you look at maps like q2dm2 + q2rdm7 etc... This is not a threat in any way, but I can honestly say that when I look at the current map list, then it makes me want to give up my spot this year. I will think about this for some days as we are always moving very slow anyway, perhaps I change my mind, but right now it's quite mheh
detina	2012-09-24 14:35
	and i see this map at "screenshot" by sti
[cr]jordan	2012-09-24 14:10
	koldduel is a must be there map
sofiene	2012-09-24 11:14
	Koldduel1 should be in the map-pool tbh,that map is nice and it is much better to play & to watch then some maps which are in the map-pool.
pr0to	2012-09-24 11:10
	kick q2dm1, q2dm2 pick koldd, frm3
Hibru	2012-09-24 10:21
	q2dm2
st1gmata	2012-09-24 10:08
	Back koldduel1 in list please. Admins, let's make a vote to include Bio Rust in list. Dont see a problem to include onemore, realy popular between players of all continents, map in list.
NumaveZi	2012-09-24 09:40
	In my opinion koldduel1 must have been included in the map pool of this edl season without been need to vote for it. This map was played a lot by all kind of players with diferent skill. I think most of new players and maybe some old players would agree with me. Shame
newash	2012-09-24 09:19
	"Access the Red List by clicking.. Articles You mean.
detina	2012-09-24 09:15
	but haunted`s vote not valid.. that is so my mistake
st1gmata	2012-09-24 09:12
	Map pool: agreed with second detina's row. as for me koldduel1 is "new" map, what peoples play often, not much "new" maps can display same result. ofcourse q2dm2 nice map: big, beautifull, almost balanced. but imho it not best choose for any duel league. I'm realy glad what, you guys, keep working on q2 demos site. It realy good idea! Delay is commonplace for any project. Good Luck! In advance, thanks to wision, syanid & quadz for supervisers work. Sad what you still not in signed up players list. GL ALL! Edited: 2012-09-24 09:28
pr0to	2012-09-24 09:11
	glad to see a lot of familiar players
detina	2012-09-24 07:54
	hm.. i calculated maps, and koldduel1 was picked 11 times earlier than q2dm2, but in results a see 10 picks of kold)) what it is mean? and in last edl kold was picked 94 times and dm2 was picked 50 times.. argument?

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