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Euroq2l #18
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Groups online!2006-10-01 17:00 | Gravgon
Ladies and gentlemen, the league is ready to start!

You can check on your right the groups and the divisions for this 6th season of Euroq2l.

Don't forget that all the clans will play versus each other twice during the group matches.

EDIT: Schedules added, you can start challenging now!

EDIT 2: Clanleaders, update your squad before you play your first game.

EDIT 3: Clanleaders, don't forget to let an admin know when you have scheduled your match.

Enjoy!

- The Admin Crew.
Comments

dx.hr
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2006-10-05 05:32 
i wins you looses. emo
arch^
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2006-10-05 02:46 
More predictions on forum plz guys!
V!ct!M
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2006-10-04 04:03 
emo
careem
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2006-10-03 21:29 
rofl delete this comment 2 if u deleted other 3

Edited: 2006-10-04 12:43
OhYeah
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2006-10-03 18:06 
Careem your humour is of stellar caliber. emo
feeble.
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2006-10-03 10:52 
exacly emo
KPAH
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2006-10-03 10:50 
quote V!ct!M:
But with TAK we played with our 'nub' lineup
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feeble. = n00b emo
dx.hr
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2006-10-03 10:47 
is feeble a rapist?

(this tread has some potential to become the largest on scene)
Gravgon
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2006-10-03 10:41 
To feeble, smartass.
necro
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2006-10-03 09:20 
and on who is this sentence referred to: "You guys are blind"
arch^
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2006-10-03 08:54 
Gerdt has a small penis
Gerdt
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2006-10-03 07:33 
Nah arch doesn't wear glasses, but he has a baby voice (which is much worse btw!)
OhYeah
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2006-10-03 06:00 
Arch wears his glasses only when he feels sexuh.

emo
V!ct!M
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2006-10-03 05:45 
I wear.
arch^
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2006-10-03 04:32 
Necro, an answer to your question: I said something about q2next1. And I dont wear glasses.
necro
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2006-10-03 04:04 
who said anything about q2next1?
no wonder you wear glasses.

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arch^
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2006-10-03 00:52 
q2next1 is a good map for 4v4. You guys are blind. That map is at least better then dm7.
dx.hr
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2006-10-02 19:13 
i think wizards should switch with tak
emo
patter
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2006-10-02 17:34 
but without q2suck2 emo
voron
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2006-10-02 16:29 
gl all
feeble.
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2006-10-02 16:15 
not good emo
OhYeah
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2006-10-02 15:41 
feeble, don't forget q2suck1 is still in the maplist so you best start practicing emo
necro
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2006-10-02 15:05 
mine penis is small
V!ct!M
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2006-10-02 14:39 
Gerdt makes belgian chocolate for me when he waits for rockets on dm2 lifts. emo
feeble.
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2006-10-02 14:37 
huh , I didn't expect you guys [ b-plan and KPAH emo ] to write so n00bish arguments . kpah u really made me laugh pasting those results emo you gave an example of w/o game vs t0k but u don't have a slightest idea about this game . that time our organisation was almost perfect , we were active , and this w/o was just a coincidence and a misunderstanding ( I will skip tok's behaviour who tried to do everything to avoid this game ) . BUT NEVERMIND , WHO CARES , i just introduced a case u presented very unfair .
now a game vs YOU previous season. imo it's not even worth decribing , but i'm bored now and here you go emo we won a map vs you playing with guys who never play in serious games , they are just our mates . moreover you picked some q2suck1 and q2suck2 which they didn't even see previously . so what's your point . are you so proud of that ? stop writing this , because it becomes more funny than serious emo
i'm glad that Foen is objective and knows what is going on .
all those excusions are surely irrelevant , but I had to make it clear

Edited: 2006-10-02 16:11
zombi
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2006-10-02 14:10 
Ok , i understand and respect that. There is nothing more to say than GL everyone.
zdufs
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2006-10-02 13:11 
i didn't know he is belgian emo i thought he is swedish

Edited: 2006-10-02 13:11
Gerdt
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2006-10-02 13:10 
on-topic: just switch plus with tak? (i'm sure plus will agree) gg

edit: belgium is your friend

Edited: 2006-10-02 13:11
Gravgon
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2006-10-02 13:04 
Didn't you know all Belgians are rapists ? emo
V!ct!M
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2006-10-02 13:03 
Nah, he is just arch`s master.

Edited: 2006-10-02 13:03
zdufs
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2006-10-02 13:01 
whos is this hbq person? is he rapist or smt?
V!ct!M
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2006-10-02 12:57 
Kenneth emo

Gerdt
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2006-10-02 12:50 
hbq rapes you anywhere anytime victim emo
V!ct!M
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2006-10-02 12:39 
I don't care, because now I am mainly Warsow player so I can play even in 3rd division (but maybe my teammates want to play in 1st :>emo but I want to say something about 3c. Two years ago there were only few persons who knew this clan. Our old lineup even didn't win 3rd division in PLQ2. But what happened one year later? 3c won 2nd division and our enemies didn't win even one map! (51 were played)

http://cup.planetquake.pl/quake2/plq2/index.php?op=gr&id=30005
PLQ2 #7 Scoreboard

OK, you can say, there weren't any so good clans like t0k or aK (but in my opinion mdt and lot are quite good) but look for our opponents in PP (Puchar Polski - Polish Cup). We won with t0k, then aK won with us (check match details) on two maps only by 20 frags. Later we lost with t0k thanks to... noshow.

http://cup.planetquake.pl/quake2/plq2/index.php?op=poff&id=30001
PP Bracket

Something about last EQ2L... yes, I can agree, we disappointed. But with TAK we played with our 'nub' lineup. Oste was in our 3rd lineup, Mvp also (they are better now emo). You should see score with stop, we also didn't play in our best lineup (tbh lukah is the best player in our team). We have already played with teams like HBQ or something. Yes, very often we got raped but many games still were 'close'.

Hmmm, it's probably all from me at the moment. :-) And don't forget! It isn't statement of 3c (I am not even a Clan Leader), only my first impressions.

emo

Edited: 2006-10-02 12:56
careem
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2006-10-02 12:26 
suggest - make only 2 divisions "strong" and "weak" clans. Imo that all clears.

Edited: 2006-10-02 12:28
Foen
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2006-10-02 12:02 
KPAH: i know what happend in last euroq2l. In that 3c - TAK! game 3c didn't have even close their best lineup. And when they had their best lineup they won tOk in plq2.

zombi: Yes TAK! is from Ukraine, but you are putting 3c to div2, not tOk nor BoD. And atm 3c is at least as good as those two clans.

That is my point of view, maybe i'm wrong or maybe not.

Gravgon
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2006-10-02 11:44 
zombi: as I tried to explain it, we don't back our decision for those divisions and groups with any determined past achievements of the clans.

It's purely abritrary.

We also said TAK! was kind of borderline between div1 and div2 but we had to make a choice there. The people composing the admin crew are active players who are all members of top div1 clans.

And those players were all clearly estimating a clan like 3c worthier of div1 than TAK!.

zombi
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2006-10-02 11:29 
Gravgon, but how can You assess the strength of a particular clan? Does it depend on it's activity?
I agree that activity is an important factor but the fact that a clan doesn't play so often doesn't have to mean it is weaker.

Foen said that 3c is the strongest polish clan here but TAK! is a ukrainian clan so wtf ?
KPAH
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2006-10-02 11:03 
quote
Foen 2006-10-02 12:50
B-Plan: Reason why 3c is in div1, is their 2nd place after aK in last plq2 league. And in playoffs they won tOk, who won BoD. So this way it looks that they are the best polish clan here.
And yes, i realize that it sucks for you to play in div2, but based to those facts we couldn't think anyone else to div2.
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emo Open ur eyes 3c got w/o and they LOSE to TOK by w/o due no active players
31337clan vs Team On-Line Killers
Data: ———
Wynik: 0:3
Fragi: 0:0
Mapy: w/o, w/o, w/o
Wyniki: o:w, o:w, o:w
Dema: ———
emo

look here

31337clan vs TAK!
Type: Play off's
Referee: SEBbull
Date: 2006-06-14 13:00
Score: 1:3
Frags: 276:484
Maps: q2dm2, q2next1, q2dm3, 2next2 emo
Scores: 116:71, 50:238, 110:175, o:w
Demos: ———
emo

Edited: 2006-10-02 11:14
Gravgon
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2006-10-02 11:01 
To give my opinion on the TAK question:

Euroq2l is a league which changes almost every season. This league also gives more importance to the current activity and strength of the clans than on their past achievements.

In contrary, ClanBase uses the exact same cup format seasons after seasons. This gives a better stability (but it's also less fresh and exciting) and this allows them to base their divisions and groups on past achievements of the clans in their cups.
Gravgon
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2006-10-02 10:46 
Quote Careem: "Maybe we should put Plus in div2 and TAK! in div1 then. [c] gravgon
Rofl - who played cb-tdm div1 final game? aaa?
We were second on div1 cb-tdm and u want to put us into div2 - bravo Grav."


You have been trolled emo
mobzter
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2006-10-02 10:34 
OhYeah is gay.
Putka
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2006-10-02 10:24 
GL HF emo
zbone
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2006-10-02 10:13 
OhYeah, we already have 1 emo
careem
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2006-10-02 10:09 
tak|b-plan i still think CD in div2 are still better then u guys
OhYeah
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2006-10-02 10:04 
TAK! guys, you have a good chance to bring home the div2 cup, don't tell me that doesn't sound good? emo
patter
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2006-10-02 08:42 
careem only in 3rd emo
patter
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2006-10-02 08:37 
biplan... TAK! lvl isnt enough for div1 for now, and as u can see only u (inactive) spaming here about "not fair" seeds emo
TAK!B-plan
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2006-10-02 08:30 
In EuroQ2l 4 we played in DIV1 and reached play-offs. Despite of this in EuroQ2l 5 we were moved to the "second" basket, but we won SILVER playoffs. Now we are in the "second" league once again. What will happend if we will win 2ond league once again, but some polish clan will perform well in their internal league where we can't participate? Will we play in the second basket for the whole q2-life?emo




careem
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2006-10-02 08:17 
Maybe we should put Plus in div2 and TAK! in div1 then. [c] gravgon
Rofl - who played cb-tdm div1 final game? aaa?
We were second on div1 cb-tdm and u want to put us into div2 - bravo Grav.

Edited: 2006-10-02 08:18
Froger
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2006-10-02 07:09 
GL HF all !!!!
OhYeah
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2006-10-02 07:02 
It is true also, that 3c and 3M both played with their backup lineups last season. We must take this into account as well.

But preliminary match between TAK! and 3c sounds quite interesting...
Foen
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2006-10-02 06:50 
B-Plan: Reason why 3c is in div1, is their 2nd place after aK in last plq2 league. And in playoffs they won tOk, who won BoD. So this way it looks that they are the best polish clan here.
And yes, i realize that it sucks for you to play in div2, but based to those facts we couldn't think anyone else to div2.
EchO^
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2006-10-02 06:42 
ttnm for the win emo GL & HF every1 emo emo
patter
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2006-10-02 06:06 
maybe 3c and TAK! have to play a game and winner will play in div1
TAK!B-plan
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2006-10-02 06:04 
2 OhYeah: the only question to You - which concrete ratings/games/achievements allowed 3c clan to be ranked higher then TAK! ?

2 all: Isn't it fair to "sort" clans by results of the previous GOLDEN-SILVER-BRONZE playoffs ? In that situation both 3c and TAK! will be present in playoffs. It seems that we still have time, until games will start.
OhYeah
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2006-10-02 05:56 
I know we upset some people with our decisions, but please try to understand - we had to make some choices and that meant dropping somebody to div2. But on the other hand, if you perform really well now and somebody else in upper div performs bad, you will be moved to higher division. It's now your time to prove yourselves. GL on your games!
patter
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2006-10-02 05:35 
sad but i cant see any team in div1 that TAK could win... maybe 3c... and plus not more
[IS]n3xT
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2006-10-02 05:19 
dimmo there is one russian clan in 3rd DIV;]
feeble.
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2006-10-02 04:17 
B-Plan , oh cmon , how can you write such a comparison basing on games vs 3rd lineup of 3m / 3c

Edited: 2006-10-02 04:17
Dimmo
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2006-10-02 04:09 
0 estonian clans 0 russian clans

what the hell?
zorre
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2006-10-02 03:38 
Arch btw, how bad will we win our group? =)
Gravgon
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2006-10-02 03:38 
Maybe we should put Plus in div2 and TAK! in div1 then.
zorre
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2006-10-02 03:38 
Yeah I fully agree with TAK!, but CD should be lowered to Div3 imo!! emo
arch^
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2006-10-02 03:06 
There are 10 clans in each div, so you need to tell who needs to go out of div1 instead of tak and CD then. Imo 3c and TAK should be switched. But maybe it is too late already!!

Edited: 2006-10-02 03:12
careem
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2006-10-02 02:28 
Yeah i agree with b-plan, tak and CD are 2 strong for div2 u should give them in div1
TAK!B-plan
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2006-10-02 02:10 
Guys, isn't it strange that we won division 2 in the last season and now we need to play in division 2 once again ?

P.S. Also in the previous season we won in the playoffs over 3M and 3c, but they both are in div 1 now and we in div 2 once again.

P.P.S. And Awards section for TAK! doesn't contain 1 place div 2.

Edited: 2006-10-02 02:14
patter
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2006-10-02 02:05 
its becomes a tradiotion... kpd vs CD in a group emo
empitrii
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2006-10-02 01:58 
gl hf
zdufs
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2006-10-01 18:21 
cant wait to see some interesting gamez bitches emo
kubi
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2006-10-01 18:11 
look last plq2, 3 league
http://cup.planetquake.pl/quake2/plq2/index.php?op=gr&id=30006

but ok, i must agree with this decision
Spam
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2006-10-01 17:52 
It was really hard to make division 2 and 3, to decide if clans were div2 or 3 material, but we was helped out by one plq2 admin and the we looked on scores and placement from previous season in Eq2l, CB and Plq2 and decided that this is the best way.

Ofc, if some clan wanna jump down to a lower division we can make a change.

Edited: 2006-10-01 18:01
kubi
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2006-10-01 17:33 
v3 and bbc in div and we in div 3 emo
OhYeah
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2006-10-01 17:17 
Good luck all, let's make this a good season emo

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