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Euroq2l #18
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EuroQ2L #7 - Signups2007-01-22 20:30 | Gravgon
Welcome to the 7th season of Euroq2l !

Introduction:

After a successfull 6th season, we decided to go further with this league and we also decided to stick to the same system. Never change a winning team they say.
A couple of changes need to be brought to your attention though, particularly about the rules.

Rules highlights

6.2 A game that is played with incorrect settings is not considered official and will not be counted as an Euroq2l game.

This means you should always check the settings (quad drop is off? bfg is on? powershield on dm8?) before typing "ready" in console.

8.2 Valid Q2 clients: R1Q2, AprQ2 and EGL coupled with the anticheat.dll module (available on this website).

Many people expected it, this season we decided to take stricter rules about anticheat.
You are no longer allowed to use outdated clients such as NoCheat or HolyWater and you MUST use the anticheat.dll module.
We are currently working in order to get as many servers as we can using this new protection.

Another changed rule is, If teams points are tied after groupstage. First comes map wins between those two clans, if it is tied, then net (frags - deaths) will count, which team will get higher rank. Because of this, penalty frags in w/o will change from -200 to -400

Sanctions:

1.4 Any behaviour taken by a player to intentionally harm the good happening of the league or one of its match can be punished with a sanction ranging from the warning to the definitive exclusion of the league.

This rule was already added last season, however I decided to highlight it in this news item because the Euroq2l crew decided to exclude 3 players from the league.
Putka, dx and Careem are not allowed to play with any clan in this season after breaking the rule mentioned above including bad behaviours towards the admins and other fellow quakers.
This league is organised by people who take their free time to do it, it's therefore understandable that those people don't want to do it for players who don't respect them or the job they do with this league.

Another note about player RangeR, he is allowed to play in Euroq2l but not allowed to be a clanleader. This is to make it easier for both the admins and the clans to keep the league running smoothly.

Conclusion:

Finally a last word before wishing you GL & HF with the league: our beloved and dedicated Head Admin Foen will step off the "frontman of the league" spot. He will still help the crew but the new lucky man to whom you can direct all your questions and whinings is ph!

Enjoy the league!


Signups:

To sign up your clan you must contact someone from the crew on IRC (#euroq2l on quakenet.org). The signups end on the Sunday 4th February

Here is the list of clans already signed up:

- flag 8 - Awesome - necro -
- flag [TF] - Twilight Fighters - otpek -
- flag 1day - 1day clan - thuGGee -
- flag [KTA] - kontula - Dimmo -
- flag [ttnm] - titanium - Juzam -
- flag [Wizard] - Wizards - thaigo -
- flag (2.0) - Two-point-o - Damiah -
- flag LyL - Lenkai yra Lopai - APKIS -
- flag IS - Invisible Soldiers - nrk -
- flag M-c - M-c - GT.7 and BORO -
- flag v3 - Veni Vidi Vici - vIbez and V3sq -
- flag [bbc] - Bad Boys Clan - xawik -
- flag BoD - Brotherhood of Death - eXecutor -
- flag bdj - bad dee jays - MARC1N3K -
- flag FF - For Fun - Festival & Ag3 -
- flag mdt - Mors Dicit - zotter -
- flag =PFH= - Play for Honor - W4RM4N -
- flag MTG - Mind The Gap - Squall and Sonic -
- flag tok - Team On-line killers - Jol -
- flag wD - we dream - Tabak and Froger -
- flag xa - eXtreme Addiction - HaMeR(hmr) -
- flag xF - x-force - NiYo -
- flag [CwD] - Chicks with DICKS - kinezu -
- flag [pimp] - pimp - zdufs -
- flag play> - play - ph -
- flag [HBQ] - Harry Boy Quakers - Spam -
- flag [eA] - en Causa Morbi - Stuff -
- flag [CD] - Clan Disable - ZakatH -
- flag {42a} - 42A - {42a}Serj -
- flag Rage - Rage - kabysdoh -
- flag IP - immortal players - Kadz & Revival -
- flag TAK! - TAK! - Muhaha -
- flag [FINR] - The Final Resistance - Rogal & Adam -
- flag [ecf] - elders clan federation - sp_ -
- flag {GF} - Good Fellas - H4Z0RD and Sp00k -



//CrewCrack Panda
Comments

xawik
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2007-02-02 03:40 
gl
fle
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2007-01-31 05:11 
DIV3 - we are coming emo emo
(c) APKISSSSS
patter
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2007-01-31 04:50 
im looking for a team... msg me in irc [nick mRpH]
{42A}SERj
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2007-01-29 21:44 
we are rdy! emo
SORG3
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2007-01-29 10:20 
For Fun ! GL !! emo
emo emo emo emo
Thuggee
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2007-01-29 09:57 
#1day-clan is looking for 1\2 player(s) to participate in EQ2L7
patter
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2007-01-28 17:45 
they are inactive in the main part emo
OhYeah
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2007-01-28 17:14 
patter: there should be enough players in UA? tak!, kpd, bid...
kabysdoh
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2007-01-28 03:41 
Rules: available on [URL="http://antiche.net"]this website
plz fix emo
patter
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2007-01-28 00:31 
ehhhhhhhhhhhhh...... we need new players or i need new clan emo
TheWretch
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2007-01-26 17:20 
I know it isn't in the rules, just replied to his ignorant idea emo
zorg
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2007-01-26 15:34 
Just remember you don't have to use R1Q2. AprQ2 or EGL are also allowed.
SORG3
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2007-01-26 15:33 
GG all emo
emo cool league emo
spiritfs
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2007-01-26 15:32 
Ok whine over.. i fixed it emo
spiritfs
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2007-01-26 13:36 
Quote:
TheWretch: what zorg said isn't in the rules. We won't grant "special permissions", you need to be able to run one of the valid clients with the anticheat.dll. Period.

Looks like i wont be playing this league then, R1Q2 does not recognise my joystick movement anything like the original Q2.exe / Q2ace.exe / HolyWater / Nocheat.exe and movement is impossible so i wont be playing this much longer

sp_
dug-
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2007-01-26 13:31 
no more q2 i guess ! emo emo

Edited: 2007-01-26 13:31
Gravgon
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2007-01-26 12:39 
TheWretch: what zorg said isn't in the rules. We won't grant "special permissions", you need to be able to run one of the valid clients with the anticheat.dll. Period.

If you have problems with R1Q2 or anticheat.dll or whatever, you can post a thread about it on the R1CH's forums.
TheWretch
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2007-01-26 11:56 
Of course it is a problem...

How are we gonna do when "everyone" starts using 64bit OS just to be on that list, that would be like stepping back to vanilla Q2.
zorg
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2007-01-26 08:40 
it is NOT a problem if someone can NOT run the anticheat.dll.
For those players, server admins can add their IP (or IP mask) to an exception list on the servers.

For example: player123 runs linux, his IP is 123.12.23.12, then a serveradmin adds him to the exception list with "addacexception 123.12.23.12". Now he can play.

Another example: player456 runs winXP64 and has a dynamic IP, where only the first 2 numbers are the same.
The admins add him to the exception list with "addacexception 123.12/16". This allows him to play from any IP with 123.12.x.x.

Edited: 2007-01-26 08:41
Juzam
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2007-01-26 08:22 
Well played both teams and.. Oh.. right.

I think the following rule should be modified: "6.5 You are only allowed to spectate your own clan. If it appears that the specator helped his team by giving informations about his opponents during the game, the team will receive a forfeit loss."

After the match, if a spectator failed to provide a demo or if the demo showed him or her chasing an enemy player, that clan would lose the right to have spectators on the server during the next matches.

Any admin or the leader of the opponent clan would have the right to demand the demo.

I would like to change this rule because the current the rule seems lame: how can you prove that a spectator helped his clan -- even if he or she chased an enemy player? You can't, unless you get a confession, which is unlikely. Heck, it's possible that your cat jumped on your mouse and changed the POV accidentally.

It's not fair to force losses upon clans from solely from the grounds that someone looked at a wrong player for a second. However, the act is suspicious and careless enough to deny the clan any more friendly spectators.

This is a rule that we have in at least CB's CTF cups. I'm accustomed to it, and it has started to feel natural and mandatory.

Edited: 2007-01-26 08:35
dug-
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2007-01-26 08:11 
me me me me me ... emo
patter
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2007-01-26 04:03 
we need players for this league emo who wants? emo
NiYo
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2007-01-25 15:27 
gl all! emo
sovet
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2007-01-25 07:00 
Hehe, Mobzter. emo
Xed, Thuggee, Veriz, Shugg, Hirzmuzh, Snatch, Zloy, Aone, Bishop, Wreck, Evah.

Put the best lineup of that list and you get pretty decent 1st div clan. Only thing, that Shugg and Hirzmuzh are in Play>

Estonia has normal players, but they're all whether playing for foreign clans or just shiting around.

I want sYnth, I want aK|, I want unmatched, I want LM, I want CBR, I want... I... emo
mobzter
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2007-01-25 06:30 
Dimmo: I wish it could be so easy emo
But i doubt there are any norrmal estonian players left emo
And the oldschool ones arent willing to play since stop died emo
necro
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2007-01-25 05:53 
and that "behavior" starts always from finding server to play on. if we would find suitable server for all players (not so hard, mhs, brf, quake.de), there always will be someone from opponent team who has "pl, red spikes, 200 ping"..thats why you had "problems" with us. we dont wanna be disparaged and play on some telenet or whatever server where you ping at least twice better. and i'm still wondering why noone didnt had "problems" with ping, red spikes, 200 ping when they were playing on mentioned servers with some other clan.
wision
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2007-01-25 05:30 
kpah is right... 64bit windows gives you nothing.. (i'm also running 64bic CPU with 32bit OS)

2all: i thought that q2 has become a game where ppl don't care that much about winning.. look at ndml. 17 teams signed and at least 10 teams are so weak that they'll get raped by other top-teams (just my opinion).. and still they signed in

tho i still wonder why is playing pcw against plus so smooth and real matches are like pain in the ass :x

i'm quite sure that no clan has fear from plus and i think that lot of players would like to see plus among top clans (since it's fun to play against then sometimes), but not with this behaviour

Edited: 2007-01-25 06:53
F1ghter
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2007-01-25 04:42 
Dimmo: we want to see estonian clan

i want see too

Purri: I dont know what happened in details. All I know is that Q2 scene is small and you should perhaps proceed by giving the banned players a huge warning and if they dont behave this season kick them out right away. Perhaps they have learned something with all the fuzz that has been going on. Put the hate behind you and just play

true

Edited: 2007-01-25 04:47
KPAH
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2007-01-25 02:51 
spiritfs
I have AMD64 and winXP 32 bit r1q2 work perfect with it emo
If ur ppl using winXP 64 bit they cant play with r1q2.

So make a choice emo
Dimmo
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2007-01-25 01:03 
mobzter: we want to see estonian clan
Dimmo
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2007-01-25 00:52 
spam just admit it. plus is a top clan and has been that more than a year now
mobzter
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2007-01-24 19:45 
Uuuh niceone emo
really awesome to see eA back in action, hopefully it wont be for some short time emo
GL everyone ! emo

PS! Any clan looking for a noob to hold their grounds ? emo /msg mobzter
dug-
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2007-01-24 18:05 
pi ci wi ... pi ci wi .... pi ci wi ..... emo
arch^
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2007-01-24 14:16 
Yes plus is so good clan!!!! GOD!
dx.hr
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2007-01-24 13:43 
spam, if you dont remember something it doesnt mean it did not happen emo careem posted you one screenshot down there in this thread.
i will repeat it just for you: http://www4.slikomat.com/07/0123/44011231n9.jpg
unfortunately neither me nor you played in this one, which is a setback for plus and advantage for hbq. now im not the kind of person who records and keeps demos & screenshots of pcws, but both you and me know each clan has won his fair share of games.
Spam
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2007-01-24 13:20 
hahaha dx, funny one, i cant remember 1 single time HBQ lost to plus, pcw or cw atleast not when i have been playing and i doubt my clan becomes worser without me in team emo
dx.hr
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2007-01-24 13:16 
and since i am in good mood, i will answer even to you, oh yeah.
wizards and hbq particularly, our dear champions who lost 2 group games to us (yep, they kindly took w/o in first game due to our connection problems), and our dear dropouts who managed to avoid us for last few seasons, but lost many pcws to us in that time (and to be fair, they won many too)
Spam
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2007-01-24 13:12 
r1q2+anticheat dont work for win95/98/linux or 64bit users but since its so few player that use that we cannot be on their side.

its maybe 97% that got win2k/xp or something and 3% with others.. and its 2007, we have to listen to the people.. not single people.

*NOTE* Yes my english suck emo

Edited: 2007-01-24 13:14
dx.hr
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2007-01-24 13:11 
i dont know where did you get the idea i am blaming anyone emo im just taunting gravgon a bit. he wont mind, he is probably used to get teased. also i dont know how did you conclude i have questions. its all clear to me emo
spiritfs
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2007-01-24 12:55 
Erm.. question guys

What happends with this new R1Q2.. becuase a few of our players use 64bit Pc's and can prove this ?

R1Q2 will only support 32bit platforms as quoted from there site:

The anticheat module is only compatible with 32-bit Windows 2000/XP/2003.

Answers on a postcard..................
OhYeah
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2007-01-24 12:54 
dx, exactly which clans feel "threatened" by plus? Didn't you finish last the previous season or smth?...
ph
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2007-01-24 12:52 
Its not cause or your skill, its because of your behaviour last season. And why are you blaming gravgon for the ban? All admins agreed on this decision and im the new head-admin. So blame me. You are welcome to msg me on irc with your questions dx.
dx.hr
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2007-01-24 12:37 
pff. its just that we became too good, and "top" clans feel threatened. emo
anyways, i really dont have time for this crap any more, so have a nice league. especialy to geekgon (of course, if he will participate in this one) emo
zdufs
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2007-01-24 11:44 
emo emo
Muerte
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2007-01-24 10:44 
well at least dug can play for clan Plus in EuroQ2L #7 emo
`sl
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2007-01-24 07:29 
veriz stfu.
necro
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2007-01-24 07:04 
veriz, where did you saw problems with us at cb for this and last season?
wision
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2007-01-24 07:03 
and egl... http://egl.quakedev.com/
but it can be found on anticheat web page
Dimmo
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2007-01-24 06:57 
url for aprq2 http://apprime.0wns.org/q2/
VeRiz
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2007-01-24 05:35 
Exactly, they didn't had problems only in Euroq2l. They had problems in Clanbase as well two seasons in a row. They deserved the punishment. Nice job admins.
thaigo
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2007-01-24 00:44 
Dont worry putka, it will because you're not in it emo
Putka
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2007-01-23 16:44 
I doubt this will finished before christmas emo

Edited: 2007-01-23 17:20
M-c/B0R0
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2007-01-23 14:34 
Good luck emo
thaigo
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2007-01-23 14:07 
I have said it once and I will say it again:
Empitrii, when you don't know nothing, dont say anything.

As for the dx,careem and putka... They got what they deserved. Maybe they will behave in season 8?
Gerdt
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2007-01-23 13:55 
"hahaha putka was owned emo!!!"
Vibez
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2007-01-23 13:34 
gl emo
kicia
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2007-01-23 12:13 
empitrii hmm pls think twice before you say smth here next time...
empitrii
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2007-01-23 09:45 
Is in the rules that jumping into lava is not allowed ?
careem
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2007-01-23 09:20 
But ok, this is about posting posts here about eq2l discus and rules...

This is my last post on q2scene anyways, gl

Spam
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2007-01-23 09:12 
I say: read gravgons comment below.
careem
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2007-01-23 09:11 
Spam and what happen next, did dx jump again in lava in next games?
Spam
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2007-01-23 09:05 
For you that havent seen the written warning in eq2l page:

http://q2scene.net/euroq2l/index.php?op=com&id=1043

For empitrii: what does HBQ have to do with this newspost? plz try to write in decent english atleast, i dunt onderstand anything of what u wrote.

Edited: 2007-01-23 09:08
PURRI
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2007-01-23 08:41 
I dont know what happened in details. All I know is that Q2 scene is small and you should perhaps proceed by giving the banned players a huge warning and if they dont behave this season kick them out right away. Perhaps they have learned something with all the fuzz that has been going on. Put the hate behind you and just play emo
Gravgon
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2007-01-23 08:37 
I don't want to talk about this here if you don't understand something that is said in this news item you can PM an admin on IRC.

I just wanted to say that I posted this news item on behalf of the whole crew not for myself only.
empitrii
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2007-01-23 08:29 
I dont like that Gravgon is kicking someone out of league. If we look what did HBQ - joined league and then left. Reason was that they dont have time to play their games in different reasons. EQ2L crew has always said that is it really so hard to play 2h in week and now they, who have the biggest lineup in league, cant find this time. I think careem and his mates have to have rights to play in league if they want. If their connection is little shitty and they have to play always about 10-20 points ping higher. There have been different situations there theuy can have ping maybe 20 points lower, but all other shits on their face cose they dont like careem.
What i want to say to admins by this long(and maybe little abstruse) is that - before punishing someone, think that, am i same clear as him(or them)!

thank u
careem
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2007-01-23 08:08 
Btw admins should think twice before they kicked us.

Gravgon takes Q2 2much serious.. They should allow us all to no matter what happen be4 this league caus u make mistake once for sure u wont make same mistake next time.. He should give us some kind of warning for next time not just remove us ffs. And all the admins are "enemys" from plus except ph,pogo.. Some admins hated us be4 league started and some are now glad we are out, for example ohyeah, foen and gravgon? emo

However i cant do anything about euroq2l u are admins u are making new rules, but that is really not nice what uve done admin crew.

Gl to all q2 clans, i hope u will enjoy this league this time without plus

ps:
Some screenshots of our pcws last few weeks, http://www4.slikomat.com/07/0118/020104grds.jpg
http://www4.slikomat.com/07/0123/44011231n9.jpg
But how it looks like the pcws were useless emo

emo

Edited: 2007-01-23 08:18
Nazz
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2007-01-23 07:48 
Its good that next season came so fast, because when there's long break, people forget about q2 and go inactive. so keep it goingemo
SeiSM
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2007-01-23 07:07 
i didnt expect 7th season coming up so fast but i think its cool. previous one was perfect so im realy looking forward to it and hope the same good one..
gl to clans ans especialy to admins who spends so much time for this shit.. TY
APKIS
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2007-01-23 06:39 
the funniest rule was about ranger emo
patter
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2007-01-23 06:24 
i dont think its a good idea to ban players... better to ban clan and dont allow them to pla in 1 team emo all depends of a captain
careem
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2007-01-23 02:14 
plz who want to pick me as fake to play in his clan plz PM on irc! emo

Edited: 2007-01-23 02:16
kubi
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2007-01-22 20:37 
I dont expect 7th season welcome here too fast emo . We dont have time to celebrate gold emoemo btw. GL + emoemo

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