That's not surprise to me, Kaby. Surprise is why 95% of your nation support Putin, who said that break down of CCCP for the Russian people became a genuine tragedy.
Yep, but russians still think that they saved the world. And probably they still don't know that they've killed millions innocent people...Maybe some people already forgive them but they didn't forgot! And that was the past and life goes on. Today it's very strange for me when I see that major news on ccn is that some american has broken his leg and after 15 mins I see 10sec news that 200k people have been killed in china by some shit hurricane or something...
Its pointless to talk with russian people about history.Maybe they didnt learned history? or just they cant accept the truth. Or maybe real history is forbidden in their country? Who knows... Just read some books or articles not from russian publication...
necr: We lost about 1/3 of population and 50 years lived under occupation in constant fear. Still, after this we are far behind West European people - many people became like animals, responsible for nothing. Drinking, suicides, crimes became common usual as in whole CCCP. Before that Lithuania was very religious and sober land. People lost their ability to think logical. Look, DM writes "I care about people<...> so stfu...killing one human is a tragedy, killing thousands is statistics". Many people don't even vote for new deputies. One women said to me yesterday "I think THEY already chose for as..." (like it was i 50 years long when elections was formality - that's the tragedy. Look, I don't blame whole Russian nation - it suffered most from soviets. The problem Russians are manipulated by government like Germans in 1936 -1945 and Americans in 2001 9 11 till ...Sure, Yeltsin and his clan spoiled true meaning of democracy but that does not proof that Russia should live in autocracy ruled by former KGB agent? He's trying to restore Russians self esteem by dropping them idea of restoring Russia in CCCP borders (as Hitler tried take what belongs to "best nation" 1939-1945). But, don't you think we have right to have our own states and live our own lives and talk our languages (not the most beautiful language in the world - Russian, as I was told in the school)?
PS. Nobody denies there was Jews killed in occupied Lithuania- it was done by dozen of criminal people under SS control. But do you know fact, how many Lithuanians have saved Jews risking their own lives and lives of their families?
About a million died in Gulag (all archival figures). Consider war circumstances.
Where 10 mln died in offensive CCCP war? just tell.
Name hmm. No real points. What greatest tragedy? Maybe the number of jews killed by your zondercommands during nazi occupation? 220 000. Largest number among all european countries (except Germany).
About morons. People who have opinions that are based on proofless political lies look more like morons.
name, such people like you, is the biggest tragedy of Lithuania ... strange mentality ... insulting people for their clan tag. lol ) you are a child name... dont tell me what to do ok ? you pissed me off. and i don't give a fuck about USA, RUSSIA or any other country, i care about people. And my teammates are really nice people. so stfu...
killing one human is a tragedy, killing thousands is statistics.
fapfi, correct me is I'm wrong but lately Putin "recommend" and approved history books where it's written, that mass killings, deportations and slave work in Gulag in Soviet Union was for good purpose after all - to make Russia industrial country!
But OK, I didn't wanted to start history lessons here, just make my countrymen attention to think what they do in game and real life to - be responsible for your country! And gg!
AID, you know, some ages ago Russians was nice peaceful folk. After their women for 5 centuries where banged by Mongolians, that changed. Go east and meet you brothers! http://moderntribalist.blogspot.com/2005/11/russian-alcoholism-and-mongoloid-gene.html
DM, how can you so easy participate with the name of something, what caused the greatest tragedy in all Lithuanian history? Can you imagine, for example, Palestinian participating in "Zionism"? Choose who you are: Lithuanian team leader or soviet from CCCP. If you chose the second, change your flag to something more appropriate.
... no comments. ITS A GAME, THE CCCP IS JUST A NAME OF A CLAN, NOTHING MORE. Name its not the right place for discussing the politics or to remembering the history. why shame on me ? for what ? for joining the clan ?
MOSCOW - Russian President Vladimir Putin told the nation Monday that the collapse of the Soviet empire was the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century and had fostered separatist movements inside Russia.
In his annual state of the nation address to parliament and the countrys top political leaders, Putin said the Soviet collapse also was a tragedy for Russians.
First and foremost it is worth acknowledging that the demise of the Soviet Union was the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century, Putin said. As for the Russian people, it became a genuine tragedy. Tens of millions of our fellow citizens and countrymen found themselves beyond the fringes of Russian territory."
So why poor Russians, who come to occupied states as colonists, don't go back to sweet USSR? After two centuries they still identifies them selfs as soviets (like soviet [est] or CCCP team) and wait patiently here for Russian army to safe them as it did in Georgia.
Since when you're a history teacher, kaby? How you can put portugal for examle and russia to the same bag? It's a very very delicate subject. But ~10 killed people is not the same as ~10 mln...And killing in self-defence is not the same when you're are the agressor, am I right? eot.
Or are you speaking about some freaky western cold war fantasies instead of the archival figures? KGB, hundreds of billions of prisoners, Rambo in Afganistan? We are no enemies - no need for doubtful accusations no more. Although I do understand that this MISunderstanding will last a bit longer. Pity.
And rl. I personally do not accuse Poland of the Intervention in the XVII century no more . Let the past sleep peacefully.
learn is nothing, 1st you shold growp up to understand what you learn show me any greate country that didn't kill ppl uk? france? germany? usa? spain? portugal? sweden? italy? well, probably farrer islands didn't, if you have the idea where the fuck it is.
Well, name just save your bullshit for your kitchen talk. _Yes_ I do feel proud and _No_ soviet regime didn't kill "millions of people in the name of smth" except for the Civic war that is our internal business and didn't happen out of nowhere. Learn history a bit. And your grandfather's death doesn't give you the right to offend a whole country, sorry and shame on you.
Folks, sorry for this but don't like to be pooped over. Please moderate this shitty and misplaced conversation. _______________ GGs guys. CCCP gogo.
cmon name. me as each intelligent person can tell you much about my faamily history and tragedies at WWs, repressions and many other stuff. try to understand that it's just the wrong place.
i am not insulting anyone. if you have problems with "sovietski sajuz" write a diary. Why you aim at me ? i dont give a f*** about the clanname.... the war is over, we are free, so enjoy your life... and its not our fault what happened to your family.
If q2 is outside politics, why do they chose name like CCCP or Soviet? Maybe change it for Hitlerjugend, NAZZI? And some Russian politics in these days would be happy to exterminate whole Baltic nations to solve "Baltic problem" forever.
I think clan names that insult other people shouldn't be allowed here. In the name of CCCP regime soviets killed millions of people (Russians, Poles, Lithuanians, Finns etc.) (also my grandfather) but some "soviet" people feel to be proud about that? It's same crap as "lyl" just not funny. Shame on you, DM