fine ill drop it, no problems at all. All i can do is hope that some reactions about that fake pcw "joke" would just make the ones involved think that ok fuck it lets not do that again since some people dident find the "joke" that funny.
And about that admin thing, guys no disrespect against the admins atm, but seriously, what about a couple of fresh legs in the crew?
come on.. drop it already.. i'm sure that you all have better things to do than talking bs in here (maybe pcw div2? ) anyway.. every admin listed in the crew is somewhat active (no need to discuss that).. one person should never run a league just by himself, because you always need some kind of feedback, opinion about some situations, help, etc.. sooner or later, every admin would just get full of himself and that would hurt the league
since i don't have time to write asslong comments, i'll just cut it here and ask you to just stop being mad. it's not that hard
Spam... all those things you just wrote... dude, those things are so obvious so i dident even bother to write them down, as you are doing admin work...
And spam if you have such a big problem taking critics then yeh you really should quit being an admin, cause banning some1 for opinions, now thats LOW.
Dude dont bother i dont wanna be an admin after you to clean up your mess, some of you admins already fuckt up and people got no respect at all for you.
And spam, true, you dident say it but Foen did say that you had like 1 active member... So i guess that you are the active one since you just pulled out a list on what you do every week. So in other words Foen pogo wision d34d dont do shit? dudes whatta fuck are you doing? .
Seriously there is one guy doing everything for you, and thats wision, why da fuck even keep the rest if they are inactive?
Spam ill save you ass, ill write fu spam, you are the moron with a "tiny ass" haha =). So i have disrespected an admin directly, so now you can bann me from this leauge with an reason, instead of the topic " Me spam have very bad self-confidence and i cant take critics from Cheimera so i bann him fron this league" haha duuude i would love that one =). FUCK YOU, oh now you got two reason?
"and have you even posted one single news post where you search for new admins? emo no so quit crying that you are short on active admins and blabla fucking bla."
I have never said that we are short on active admins... i said its LOW to start complain on US (me, grav, wision, pogo, _d34d) when we do this for the scene..
I said that we surely can quit be admin if you and few others became admin instead..
And admin work IS NOT just writing a newsreport... thats just a small part of everything... Stuff i more or less do every week is: 1. tell clans to play their games. 2. tell the same clans to play their games... 3. chase on all the clans that still havent played their games. 4. add games to "upcoming matches" 5. add played games. 6. chase on clans that still havent played after the round is over. 7. force games 8. talk to the rest of the admins every week what went good/bad and what we can improve. 9. help clans to schedule their games since they cant english/arent online @ same times etc 10. help clans find equal servers.. and so on so its pretty much to do outside write the news...
But il talk to the guys to next euroq2l that you cheimera take over the responsibility.
And for the record.. il ban you whenever i want from the league, if i make a news about its just a bonus for everyone else to see what moron you are.
gravgon, i do know people that have wanted and asked, and they have not been thinking its a privilege.
What do i know about it? dude i did the admin job at Clanbase, so i do know ALOT whats it all about, and i know how much time you have to put down to make it work and writing reports and other posts, loading screens counting score, playerstats etc etc etc.. So i seem to know even less about the admin job? dude nice post... Way to go...
"the admins have gotten offers from people all these years but never accepted any"
Like you know anything about that. All the offers we got were from total idiots who think being an admin is some kind of privilege (just like you seem to think).
I might not know anything about solaris' pcw routine but you know even less about the admin job. Now please quit the whole angry bullied kid attitude, it was just a prank dude
Spam hahahah dude the admins have gotten offers from people all these years but never accepted any, and have you even posted one single news post where you search for new admins? no so quit crying that you are short on active admins and blabla fucking bla.
And nice admin work, bann some1 for giving critics? hahah nice dictator style [STALIN]Spam? Dude bann me as much as you fucking want, but make sure you write a post about it and give the reason for banning me to everyone else in this scene so people know what they shouldent do to get banned .
Quit bullshit as "STFU befor i ban your little tiny ass" its just fucking hilarious shit like that comes from you, go practise jumping to mega on edge or just join the circus...
Cry me a river
gravgon:
whatta fuck does my 20min have to do with admin work?
and i dident play that game.
and obviously you think you know everything as always, so i guess you know whats good practise or not and so on and so on, and yeh they were on vent so again, you show how much you know. And no it wasent important practise, but what if we would have had an eq2l game right after that map, and we would have got raped but you 250 - 50, what a nice motivation and what great warmup for the game, think longer than your nose reaches gravgon
First of all, this is pretty laughable how you're going on and on over your lost important practice. You thought you were playing q2r and you were reportedly playing ffa without vent. So much for a good practice... If all your omg-important-practices are played that way, I understand why you're in div2.
I think you're just bitter because you were drooling over the good old rape you thought you'd give to q2r but then *SURPRISE* it's HBQ giving you a real challenge.
Then let's talk about your nice comment over the admins of this league Cheimera... Being an admin isn't a thing you deserve or don't deserve. It's just free help your give or don't give. Just for an example: the latest news item posted on this website takes at least 30 minutes to write, you can add 10 minutes every time it has to be updated. So don't whine about your precious 20 minutes of time you lost by playing a pcw against HBQ.
I really thought you weren't taking yourself so seriously...
Why should he use edit when he wanted to post a new post for every1 thats blind in here?
To Cheimera im sure we all admins could step down if you want to, just come up with 5 other active players that wanna offer atleast 5h /week for the rest of the q2 community...
I doubt u ever will find that so STFU befor i ban your little tiny ass from playing in euroq2l ever again
Squix. And I have nothing to do with this aswell. The point is, when play> faked we didnt make a single buzz about it. And look here! I guess that people have gotten stiff and boring the last years..
No wonder the polish doesent do anything for q2scene, its full of assholes (not everyone), and no fucking problem at all to replace all those inactive admins etc with new ones. So suite yourself for doing "pretty well". Nothing against you Foen, as you are about the only one imo who deserves to be an eq2l admin.
And hell yeh if thats true what they say about the polish scene, its a miljon times better, only thing thats not same as this scene is that we got more topclans.
And zorre... So you dont have any respect at all for my freetime, then thx nothing more to say to you
zorre... "..play> did it aswell..". wtf do we have to do with your screwups? Please don't ever again write something you don't know anything of or got any proof of.
Since polish q2scene have enough manpower to run nicely working q2pl, i can only wish they would want to do something for the whole scene, not just for polish scene.
And considering that euroq2l have somewhat one active admin, "we" are doing very well. Tho thanks for that goes to matured clans, but yes good all around coverage would always be a big plus for the league.
Oni, your comment had convinced me. But you see, then I read rl's comment, and he kind of ruined it Rl is an idiot and should just go and die (no offence). Anyway I guess the admin crew of plq2 is doing a very good job. Why don't you also make an open league? ^^
Yeah oni but arch^ is a guy who is just sarcasting and whining here and there, not doing anything. Some kind of clawn (no offence) but that's what I and many people think. Sorry for offtopic.
Arch, you have never participate so you will never know. There is an admin on every single game, no matter if its 1st, 2nd or 3rd league, there is a ip database verified and updated all the time, once you get busted you are banned. Players who did well are also verified if they are "clear", no demo = ban. Coverage and support, just check the site (plq2 X is after 4 match weeks) - over 40 posts, gtv, live shoutcast every week, group of ppl who are working really hard to get league go smooth, interesting, season after season, no doubt that plq2 is the best.
fake nicks and disconnecting during the matches (even tho it's "just" a pcw) and all I can see here is: "Haha what is the big deal with faking one random pcw map" and "who the fuck cares if some1 fakes on a pcw"
Why is PLQ2 the best league of all time? The solution is simple, get people who would spend much more of their free time to admin the league or simply became one, until that stop to whine. Since that wont happen, just deal with it
arch: i made my point ok, so it isnt as bad as i make it?
it would piss me off like hell if i got 20min to practise before an eq2l game and those 20min was for the fun of some lamers making a "joke". You see where i am going?
jou i agree with what arch said i have no problem saying that it was lame.. and ofc it's quite bad that if some clan do that all the time and fake for other teams.. but you know.. for a joke it was worth it
cheimera.. considering that solaris was supposed to be in div1 (it's in div2 by my mistake tbh) you shouldn't really be mad about playing with another div1 clan practise is practise
So you guys are wasting 4 other peoples time? People maybe dont got time to play 24/7 like some fucking geeks do. Maybe they got time for just one pcw that day or maybe that week, cause of kids works etc? And maybe they need that particular practise vs a less skilled clan as q2r, and you gonna spit them right in the face because of your lowsy sense of humor? And its not up to you how serious people are gonna take their participation in this league or is it?
There is a reason why people write "pcw div2" cause thats what they are after and thats what they want. Respect their time pls.
And for arch: yeh ive seen it to, but those clans have been clans that first of all dont represent this scene as much as you guys do, and it was done buy some noname clans that people barely know or give a shit about, ofc it would upset me to, but it upsets me that players that ive known for years does that.
thats all, if you think its ok to waste other peoples time and judge their commitment to this game or the league/cup that they are practising for, then fine, what can a say than fu?
Cheimera I have seen stuff like this happen countless of times. I didn't know you weren't used to anything? There have been clans faking in a whole league. From groupstage to playoffs. Besides I am 100% sure this scene is a 10000000 x more mature then 5-10 years ago. You are just a bit upset
lol, i seriously lost some of my motivation to play this game and i dident even play when HBQ faked vs solaris as q2r, it just got to me somehow, i feel like whats the fucking point aynmore. thats just it, i am not even mad i just dont give a fuck, this scene is turning into a joke for every year that goes by, so fuck it and cheers
Ok then, faking is legal and from now on all clans can play with whatever tags they like on pcws and post their demos on demosquad.. just wanted to get this clear, there is no bad in playing as another player then anymore. Thank you. And why the hell would I cry about a stuff like that, I'm just making my statement that you did wrong. But you are (The-big-bad-hbq) so you can do whatever you like and you just cant say "Ok, we're sorry for that and it will not happen again".. But no, you just want to flame it as it was all our fault for being mad. Well fuck off then is my another statement, players I thought were OK and nice dudes turned out to be a bunch of moron-np
practise game as an official game? since when? anyway.. you cannot judge somebody on public, based on your own feelings or unwritten rules. if you could, then you guys are bending my unwritten rule about discriminating other clans while you ask for pcw div2 i.e.. does that seem reasonable to you? no.. same applies to your rule if you ask me. so.. since there was no rule bending, you can translate the word "rulebending" you used to "oh-noes-they-did-something-what-made-me-cry" and your post would be more accurace actually.
if you dislike me being a headadmin, you can just wait for the time when other admins will ask me to leave, or when i am not gonna be arsed enough to do the job. if you dislike hbq for doing what they did, then i suggest you take an eraser and erase some rules from your unwritten rule book.
and no.. you cannot "refer to the time that + played, dx was kicked out of the league due to some faking outside the league" since dx was kicked because he was actively playing in two clans in one season of euroq2l. get the real facts before trying to point something out
Well what I've understood of gaming, especially this little scene of q2, that if you in a official game fake as another clan - it is bending the rules of the scene. I see allready pcw as an official game, especially at times we have leagues. Well that game might have been funny to you guys, and yes as a thought it is quite funny. But still when the leagues head admin is in on that rulebending (and no it's not in some rulebook, it's just unwritten rules), I think it's quite serious. How the fuck can I know really who I'm playing anymore when headadmins fake. I can refer to the time that + played, dx was kicked out of the league due to some faking outside the league and some trashtalking. Why shouldn't you get a warning? Because you have the fucking headadmin on your team. Please..
Hmm, well played both, but it still bothers me that is play> really play>.. or is it some nub clan just pretending to be play>? You never know with those HBQ guys, they tend to fake as other clans and bend the rules.
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zorre... "..play> did it aswell..". wtf do we have to do with your screwups? Please don't ever again write something you don't know anything of or got any proof of. 
