Since when are czukierek and dragon div1 players then? It was a close match wasn't it, between two top div 2 clans. But i don't see that s0 is too good for div2 or smth.
I find it funny that babycake ask's who's duco.. and he's asking with a bit of sarcasm. well i might be a quake 2 dinossaur since i remember playing this when most of the players didn't even used a mouse to shoot.. but if you make a little research you will find out that duco was a great div1 teamplayer.. certainly one of the best. I was very surprised when i found out slope was in fact duco.
This post is just to clear things out. Last season there was s0 ... NOT A SINGLE WIN during the season! Two or three 1:2 losses (ofc I don't consider 3 w/o wins over good fellas and weed).
This season edwin calls corpze, a man who last time played for a clan in 2003 or 4... Corpze calls me as a friend to join... Don't really know @ what point D4rus apperas, but team feels the lack of 1 more TEAMplayer because edwin - a lack of experience (although very good RL on dm3), dgz - always on shared network, kinex - a good 2x2 player but lack of 4x4 exp + always ping 80...
So we get YaYa to take place of that 4-th TEAMPlayer. AND as YaYa and Taylor are friends, Taylor joins also... The chain of logic is quite clear...
As for faking, as some of you call it... It is always strange to join a clan that didn't win a single game in last eq2l season... It's just a simple human precaution and a way to protect yourself from too much attention and stupid questions.
Yes ofcourse. Taylor has positive score only on dm1, YaYa positive on dm3 ... I have 0 on dm6. c0 is positive dm3/dm1... Solid div2 game! Congrats! Sherlock, the case is slosed.
lul @ eon. ( Last season when we "[H]" pwned all the clans in div2 ) u didnt, u were too scared to play vs us ( m ) . Remember only 1 pcw and u lost it. nub dreams : )
heh, u guys r rly funny, this game is 11 years old! just chill and have fun, whine only coz czukierek want to use a fake nick ? Last season when we "[H]" pwned all the clans in div2, there was no whine like that ? why ? coz we dont have any fakes and our nick arent so "scary", everyone though that they could beat us, well they couldnt but i cant remember any whine, maybe except carreem who said that in this season Folk will not loose even a 1 map
babycake i'm not talking abuot you... because you're a fully recognized div2 player.. - negative score on all maps...
i mean you having a good team during first euroq2l match with enough players... c0, babycake, edwin, stay(ut), kinex, darus... a clan that have already enough members.... but after losing vs f7 realizing we need to recruit some div1-players from 0s, under fakenicks... so none knows who's playing.
s0 a clan that started well but after they decided to add some unnecessary div1 players under fakenicks lost most of their respect
Nice! We are then a fully recognized DIV1 clan ! Great! And f7 won us 2:0 so let's send f7 to DIV1. And as the game with folk was very close, let's send folk to div1 also. OMG q2e has Scoob. Crazy seems to be pro... Verdict? DIV1. What about bbc? Decision is clear to me - DIV1. Congrats to everybody! Now you are all div1 players. Let's add muffzors, xTz there ... We are left with 4-5 clans in DIV2 A-B. But DIV1 will be 4 groups with same old clans in the top.
And plz be honest about overskilled... Everybody knows who 'cleans' that house. Don't know what I am talking about?! See scores from last and this plq2, last eq2l...
I don't really care about "UMD case" ... LOL fun story! oh that UMD and his jokes badly connects with our game...
About FUN folk vs funk dm1 75:204 ... vs tbf 82:188 GG! Can't really understand why was it always so hard for you on dm3?
Btw duko or slope , if you are here from 1-st eq2l ... wtf r u doing in div2?!
BTW: To my mind slope did start the first whine about Taylor, which resulted in 10 minutes delay of the game and then continued it in IRC after the game. I think he is the one to blame He threw the first flaming stone of "disrespect"... Duko u disapoint me in a way minstruation disapoints a romantic evening...
BTW suport stepback and lux0r in the way that vent is for teamplay, not for arguments and emotions...
to zilla: Man, i used to ba your clan cheerleader some years ago!!! Really liked you playing! WTF is going on now?! Come BACK !!!
THIS IS FROM EDL As you almost all suspected, we have an unknown player in the league who is doing really well so far. After little investigation, we checked some IPs and found out that flag obsi is actually flag [UMUSTDIE]. flag obsi himself confessed later today, that he didn't want to be recognized, so he used different nickname. After some discussion among the head admins, we decided to keep him, switch to his real account and give him public warning, that if he will misbehave towards the rules in the future again, he _will_ be punished by kick (or even ban) from the league. Let this be also a warning to everyone, who is not aware of the rules, or will think about breaking them
Edit 08.11: After discussion between the admins we came into a decision that the fairest thing for the players who played their games against UMD when he was faking, is to have a chance to re-play the games. This means that if they are not interested to re-play, then the original score will remain. UMD has accepted this decision and is ready to re-play if asked to. SO MAKE YOUR OWN MINDS UP !!!
zilla just click on my nickname here... i don't have username slope (loginname) on euroq2l.. and nickname duco is like 6 years old.. i don´t think most people in q2scene even remember a player called Duco... (only these who played in clanbase or euroq2l #1) ..
Also compare this case with EDL where a player called Obsi appeared to be UMD... http://q2scene.net/edl/index.php?op=news&p=4
Being of an average clan no superstars in our clan , i can see where slope is comming from but then again did slope not change his name from duco to slope also and has careem had many aliases, dont tell me you have not played for a higher clan in the past .But ... i do agree with what they are saying why change your name so you can play in a div 2 clan ??? , and surely there were div 1 clans who have had players drop to div 2 mine being one of them we have eon who stands out a mile when he plays for us , many teams are ok giving the ownage out but not taking it , come on guys this is a game thats been around for almost 11 years and we still cant get it right and we still whine . At the end of the day if you feel that the team who beats you are in the wrong division then next euroq2l start inform admins dont do it half way through it , ive looked at all the scores and comments and to me they were very close games WITH or WITHOUT the superstars playing , so a little repect to FOLK for putting up a good show and losing not by a mile but a few frags and to SKILL ZERO comon guys aliasing is old hat lets have some honesty back in the game zilla
babycake -> remember 1 thing, it's very smart thing you did, but you're missing 1 point again. s0 added two top division #1 players from last Euroq2l #10 season best polish clan (Os ) to their squad under a fake name. When s0 would have signed up to Euroq2l using nicknames czukierek.0s and Drag0n.Os they
Furtherly they've got 1 really good player called Corpze.. which i think is after Shuugh and Aone best player of .estonia. Euroq2l admins cannot be aware of every nickname, but they know most division #1 players. So: if you want to win division 2 what do you do: just sign up your clan, add 2 former division #1 players , czukierek.0s and Drag0n.Os under fakenicks to avoid that admins placing you inside division #1.
Also a lying admin:
Irc @ #euroq2l [21:12] <Slope> admins... we're playing folk.q2 vs s0... they have a new player who none ever has seen b4 called Taylor... [21:14] <@__d34d> edwin told me when he added him [21:14] <@__d34d> just wanted to keep it secret [21:15] <@__d34d> not that it is some very good player [21:15] <@__d34d> don't worry about it
A member of clan Os, who reached playoffs in last Euroq2l isn't very good??? Considering this is division 2, he must be considered very good. [21:16] <@__d34d> half of polish players change nicks often
Another admin-lie as both czukierek and drag00n both played in Overskilled in Polish Q2 league on their 'normal nickname'. example (25-02-2009) http://cup.planetquake.pl/quake2/plq2/index.php?op=descr&id=22235
Both players faked their nicknames considering it would result clan s0 squad would be judged as division #2 clan by admins (not recognizing the fakenicks). Also the fact they play in polish q2 league under their original nicknames should be taken in consideration.
Anyway our match was very close, Admins please take a look @ other div2 clans and answer this question: -Is it fun for lower ranked division 2 clans like Funk and ECF to play vs s0 with results like: Scores: 39:177, 73:221, q2dm8, q2dm3 vs funk. This nickname faking os Os. players should not be allowed, just because it's spoiling the fun + violating one important rule of the league: 1.6 Any behaviour taken by a player or a clan to intentionally harm the league or one of its matches!
This supposed to be a joke of Duco = duko? Or what? Anyway, I will replay at this on short, but not at everything sice the rest of your sentence is wasting my time. Who said anything about W/O? Who flamed before the game? If we win then we will respect our opponents and we will wish them all the best in future. As a matter a fact, we dont start with a crap like: "we should have won 2:0, omg you guys are so easy, my skills were low, i should have raped you" and so on...
For the end, yes, I do respect my opponent/opponents, perhaps more then you.
karim talks about respect. Most Folk clan members know about respect, but you are not among them. So stop the BS plz. You started flame already b4 the game and continued it after the game...
About players: USE INTERNET. We have a very nice http://q2scene.net to keep track of teams, games, squad members etc. OMG WHO IS TAYLOR WTF FAKE WO! I don't know ANY q2e player but scubadiver. See my whines about it in next game comments. I wouldn't have known most of folk if we wouldn't play some PCWs b4...
About game: karim if you didn't know PCWs DON'T COUNT! They are played for practice or for fun... so you can print your PCW screens glam A4 and post them next to your portrait. I can even send you more screenshots of our numerous games... or wait, sorry, I DON'T MAKE SCREENSHOTS OF PCWs neither demos coz nobody including me don't care about them!
In conclusion: you wanted an "Easy ride" with s0 ?! Sorry, not this time. If you want "good games" make a DIV3 and go there together with ecf and other clans you proposed in earlier comments. As a matter a fact, while corpze was hoping to win at least 1 map, I was 90% shure we will win 2:0 and got really surprised when we lost dm6.
gl folk, bl karim and duko ... btw who the f. is duko?
eh lolz .. so much flame going on for nothing .. s0 proved to be better this time so its gg ! dunno why it's all fuzz about being polish and nub and faker and dunno what .. like it matters ?! both clans have good players .. respect to each of them but in this battle .. s0 won .. GG's teammates o/ GG folk ! .. rematch isnt far away
luxor what are u talking about? i was after 550km way on car, and because that i play not so good?? yes i think but mine mates play well. So where is a problem ? it should be 2:0 but wasn't and its ok:}
Careem was letting himself too much thinking about who Taylor is... and typing "I wonder who Taylor is" in the middle of a match ?? So this is all in the head and he couldn't play normal and the result of this is his negative net....
And the other thing is arguing on the ventrilo and using it in a totally wrong way Not useful at all...
So s0 won us by psychological tactics
I only hope that we can get out some positive lessons from this for the future
Taylor used to be czukierek, Yayamoto - drag0n. Edwin informed me about their previous nicks when he was adding them, no problem here. They wanted to keep that secret but since there unhappy people you can know it.
Duco you have me wrong. I replayed on "we had only 1 pcw with full #1 squad so far". I meant with screens that we didn't have fully squad too, (without you Duco) and we still won / raped them.
Stepback, of course it does matter. We didn't have any idea with who are we dealing with. Don't call us / your team8s stupid. Every one just told the truth and facts. Anyway, why is folk stupid step? I hope I will get an answer on that.
After yesterday matches now I'm quite certain in one thing. Boy, my clan is stupid.... We know what combinations of players dont work on what map but that just doesn't matter. With ventrilo finally going for us (after 6 months of persuasion) we are playing CW worse than ever. You really should took 2-0 vs us s0... Taylor fake or not does not matter at all, cause folk is stupid....
crm: I told above, we know, but we don't do anything about it = stupid.... too bad u dont have ventrilo like the others so you can't hear what is going on during matches... edit2: ok ok maybe stupid is too much, here is better way to say it .... folk is a joke...
OMG OMG, i have to replay on that one "babycake avatar 2009-03-01 23:03 we had only 1 pcw with full #1 squad so far. Usually our PCWs are for fun mostly and to learn maps... So after 2 PCWs i already knew where is BFG @ dm6..."
Nice showing respect to us when we finished our match! Your m8 drag0n came at our channel with words like: "omg we should have won you 2:0 =DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD"
Really, 2 bad that s0 had some polish retards as Drag0n and babycake are with no respect..
Respect, kinezu, edwin, corpze and darus for showing us a GG and they didnt whine "we could win easily" even tho s0 lost every pcw to folk.
-if you're inside some kind of duelleague i can imagine you want to know who your enemy is when you're facing a faker.
Read UMD case @ q2scene.net/edl, a russian lamer spoiling up EDL qualifcations for a lot of players. We can also add a player to our squad, 1 week before match under a fake nick, not tell you who he is, which would be Damiah. I guess you wouldn't like that too if you would be in that position?
I have to admit you did very well @ dm3: fielding 2 people at rail was very smart. Because you had so many respawnkills @ rail you won the match. Me + other quader didn't do good enough to compensate
It was really sly strategy , we played many PCWs vs folk before and specially lost almost all of them for folk :>> If to be serios , i did not expect that we win the match , i knew that we can win our map . Frag to frag dm6 and fucked up ending was very good experience for me , GG !
Exactly my thoughts Gipsy, once they showed up a player called 'Taylor' none ever heard of suddenly part of s0 team. Also nice that admins didn't want to inform us who the faker was (faker Taylor wants to keep it secret).. Looks like UMD-case.
Well s0 probably wanted to win (as they lost all their practice games) so everything is probably allowed then. Also if it ruines the atmosphere
we had only 1 pcw with full #1 squad so far. Usually our PCWs are for fun mostly and to learn maps... So after 2 PCWs i already knew where is BFG @ dm6...
skill zero
Pogo
badly connects with our game...
He threw the first flaming stone of "disrespect"... Duko u disapoint me in a way minstruation disapoints a romantic evening...
karim talks about respect. Most Folk clan members know about respect, but you are not among them. So stop the BS plz. You started flame already b4 the game and continued it after the game...
but in this battle .. s0 won .. GG's teammates o/ GG folk ! .. rematch isnt far away 
??? 
:
and 3! points 
