hmm, so maybe we should ask venon who caught him ? and pio who was a PLQ2 head admin but im not sure. All i remember that venom show up on our game [H] vs FF, he stopped a game, and he just told ag3 that he been using a wh..... and as far as i remeber he had a proof lol.
Well i know that it was a long time ago but, cheater is a cheater for me.... Date: 2006-10-22 21:00 Date of that game.
Link to that game -http://q2scene.net/euroq2l/index.php?op=descr&id=60378
Pio's comment
wD.P!o` 2006-10-23 19:35 Hi ag3_ - cheater
I dont wanna waste my time but im preety sure that he was banned for plq2 as well, if u wanna u can find a news about it. HF
GG anyway
Btw im not saying that he is cheating now, i dont give a shit atm but i heard smthg about log entries done by him .... ;] but no proof so looks like he is clean now.
ye, I defend him because he is my clanmember, otherwise i won't give a fuck. nevertheless I've never perceived ag3 as a cheater.
as to the rest: there are proofs and there are bans. simply you don't know about polish cheaters list with particular time sanctions. there were proofs and there were bans. I also believe that some guys did dirty things and they weren't caught, but c'mon, THIS GAME is not an issue to start a cheating-based thread. it's just annoying when someone writes such things, just to make some mess...give it a break
I am supposed to believe you as his clanmember, that he is not cheating? As if you would know if he would.
In current eq2l and actually since eq2l1, cheaters are only kicked/banned if there is 100% proof, which there rarely is, like I said. So you will always have cheaters in the league, that's part of the game. You COULD also allow players to get kicked without proof (for example, all admins think someone cheats after watching several eq2l demos). But I don't think it's a good idea.
Anyway, I think it's naive to think that there are NO cheaters, simply cause there is no proof? Ag3 is just one of the suspicious players, there are many more. Some of those actually do cheat, and most don't. That's what I think.
cleaner was also a cheater in many people eyes, so what's going on now? haven't found any proofs? or you stopped being envy and understood that some guys are just better
So how do you proof that someone cheats? On a lan party when you see that someone is using a wallhack? There is no such thing imo as prooving that someone cheats, when games are played from private homes.
I just know that Ag3 was suspected to be cheating, by a lot of people. All the time you hear from people that he makes weird shots etc. It is just more likely that he cheats, then that someone who never gets accused cheats. It's still not proof no, but my feeling says that there are at least several cheaters in current eq2l. I just don't know who ^^
Also there are several polish players who do say that Ag3 was caught, so there seems to be a difference in opinion there.