I still cant see any clan in div2 that can win with rpwr..... if PFH didnt do it no1 will do, all the rest of the clans are too weak. Funny coz i thought that a final game will be rpwr vs PFH, now i see that it may be a waste of time
thnx for answering biah^ you're explanation makes much sense now. i saw cleaner signed active * in s0 and didn't look at BoD squad where he's also signed *. So when Cleaner is active within BoD, they indeed belong in div1 (like c0 + cleaner together is also div1). And i know biah you're a good player, don't understimate yourself or your team. Even zorre thinks you're team is top (at least best in Russia, Winner of RTDM (winning vs Rage).
Answering like a player: So what we fuckin' owned 2 clans in a 3v4 matchups on our home map which we train and like. PFH had many chances to kick our butts on dm1 and [qwned] just couldn't build up any TP with lagging duggz instead of osiris. And about "look they are all top". Can't remember anyone saying to me on the server "biah you're so top, where are your top mates?". We are TOP only in own match comments as far as I noticed. And again we didn't win a single map in PCWs with div1 clans: some status quo on dm3 and dm6 but rape on all other maps.
Now answering like an admin: When we started this season we had 2 options: either make div1x10 teams and div2x14 teams or make it x12 both divisions. But the 1-st layout suggested having a pretty short season with only 6 games in div2 and 8 games in div1. Admin squad (and I insist that this was not MY semi-head-admin decision) decided to go option #2. In this case s0 was already out of question and got placed in div1 with their new lineup, [r] were forced there as a 2-nd team of the season and powered by stasiek and urbasek. We might consider BoD as a possible placement in div2 ... if only they didn't have Cleaner signed up for 2 weeks. In this case the only anyhow possible variant was replacing Rage with [rpwr] in div1 and admin squad in this case decided that Rage deserved to play div1 more as they did pretty good there last season.
And last sentence here: I didn't want [rpwr] in div1 and I still don't think that my team is worth playing there. Corpze might survive in div1, AlexJ is a great player, but only !one! server in europe can present him with a minimum of 65 ping. Anyone thinking I might play in div1 must be a really humouros person.
One more thing ... =PFH= promissed to own us next game and I am looking forward to that day with interest.
@MASTERis :-) It's good to see that last season s0 team is still together (now named rpwr). New s0 is just a mix of players from different polish clans (FF / SnG / 3m / etc). The match Folk vs s0 you're mentioning cleaner played with ping 120 and the rest had also sucky connection(only reason we could win).
Your opinion on the first map of 1st match where you win dm1 by only 33 frags difference (secure win) makes no sense if you look at all 3 matches: Just look at this scores (last 3 matches) 306 - 24 = 282 frags difference 158 - 103 = 55 fd vs qwned 184 - 60 & 208 - 60 = 272 fd vs fm : 153 - 120 & 201 - 60 = 174 Average frag-difference(each map): 130 frags. So 3 matches in div2 and winning each map with on average 130 frags difference. I would see that as pretty nice rape-games? In div #1 you would maybe lose a few matches (by max 20-50 frags) and also win a lot of maps(dm6 for sure). I just mean: playing without the inactive cleaner doesn't mean your team belongs in div2.... as you also won semifinal and final without cleaner last season and won both playoff matches with a clear 3-0 score
Lets make it friendly discussion. I want to remind of something. Last season duco write: ------------------------------------------------- @ cheimera: first congratz for you and your clan with the victory of div2. Cleaner played the matches where he was really needed the most (vs FF, Folk and GSG9, Wd <= all really close matches, which might have been losses without him)
to s0, goodluck next season, i hope you can keep this team and hope you do well next season. ------------------------------------------------- Btw.. we even lost a match to folk WITH Cleaner. Last season was much of talks what can do s0 without Cleaner. Now we play without him and try to win by our own skills. What about other clans in div1 insead of uz? - look at s0 they play and own in div1. And [r] have a bunch of members for 4clans - which you can only guessing what skills they have for div1 or div2? Like biah mentioned we allready tryed to play pcw's against div1 clans and we lose! :p And look at the score of dm1 in our first game, we hardly win it: http://q2scene.net/euroq2l/index.php?op=descr&id=66710 And thuGGee says: they are div2 and nothing more. What can i say? - its all true!
eon/biah: since i'm not playing it's actually not my intention to insult any team again (like my last season 'whine' comment to s0 (+cleaner) being too strong for div #2 and actually winning div 2 finals). Fact is this SAME team won div2 last season convincingly, so an exact same team belongs in div1. I think rpwr would possibly lose by 30-50 frags difference by play or HBQ and would be very equal(maybe even better) to all other div1 clans. BoD ended last in div1 last season. Normally clan that wins div2 goes to div1 right? Rpwr team = last season s0 team that played 90% of matches including 1/2 and div 2 final. Rpwr(s0)team won last season final vs [r] - (3-0 = convincingly and even raping on some maps). [R] plays div1 this season?? A worser team plays div1? Sorry if i'm saying stupid things or insulting especially not you Biah (you know i like you.you're ..)... i've no bad intentions, i just say what i notice and i think it's strange. My logical advice to admin-team: ->replace Rpwr team to div1 directly (they're active enough to play 2 matches) -> place bod (last in div1 last season) to div2? Since biah is also headadmin, i wonder if he's man enough to admit the mistake of placing his rpwr team in div 2...
biah, cut that bullshit mkay ? u are a div1 caln so ..... u supposed to play in div1 but i guess u as an admin didnt want to..... as duzo noticed, u guys should play now with some play, v3 guys not pfh or tlk. I see u guys playing but it doesnt mean anything, cant see any div2 clan with 4-5 good players as u got, xeno, pfh, iafa ? 1-2 good players +all the rest average. You guys will not even loose a map coz no1 can beat you, but Biah just do not say anything about playing PCW with div1 clans coz its a one big bullshit and u know about it, if u would like to play with div1 u would put your clan in div1 HF anyway
Like I noticed in qwned report, PCWs with div1 clans starting to pay off. For 2 weeks we couldn't find a decent div2 pcw so were constantly raped by div1 clans. And dm6 was usually the only map where we could deny the rape and loose some 10-30 frags...
good point slope, dunno what to think about dm6, but i will not believe that rmwr is so strong here, PFH aint noobs anyway. gg ?
rpwr will win div2 without loosing a map i think. I though that PFH may beat em but they seem to be too strong 4 em. Thats weird coz i did play vs em few times and games were tight but looks like pcw isnt a oficial CW.
Play for honor
biah
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..)... i've no bad intentions, i just say what i notice and i think it's strange. 
