forced... played Tasty picked dm1 : was a close map,Tasty was leading then tLk made a comeback,but Tasty finished by winning by some frags.
tLk picked dm6 : this was totally tLk's map,pure ownage from xaw by his quad-runs and sofiene locking the rl,all the map was controlled by tLk....Tasty left the team after 10 mins.
decider was dm2 : was an equal match the first mins,untill Cajmere from tLk took the control of the RA and xaw raping with quad.
And this is ALL because of sofiene's experience in NADL. It was AC forced, and euros were forced to play on tourney4. There were 30 signups and 20 of them were total newbs that aren't competitive at all.... I didn't want to have to make them play on high ping v. good euro players. I AM SO SORRY SOFIENE....
The other problem he had in NADL, was that it was AC forced and said he gets like 30 fps when using AC on his cpu. I politely told him sorry, that I couldn't bend the rule for him being that a lot of Americans has problems with using AC as well.
Because of these two things, his NADL experience was ruined and he has held a grudge ever since. I am SO SORRY sofiene that you got so upset that you spammed "noob NADL admins" and "noob americans" all in our irc channel then quit the league. There is no competition/interest in NA, NADL isn't a big deal at all, but I'm still sorry you had a bad time and had to quit after losing your 1st match.
but PLEASE stop holding this grudge over to euroq2l. Pulling this sunday-only stuff, and all the lies, was you just trying to get revenge over NADL, trying to make team tastyspleen have a shitty time. Enough is enough, stop with the lies, and be a man.
I wanted to play on sunday because you didn't have 4? What?! Lol! I agreed on sunday out of complete desperation because you were telling gravgon lies about scheduling trying to get tastyspleen in trouble, all because of your personal beef with me/USA. The problem isn't me, I am not some kid that holds grudges, especially over the internet. And trust me, I felt sorry for gravgon having to sort all of the BS out. It really must suck to have one of your admins private messaging you BS lies to cover up their own inadequacies/faults. I'm sure it isn't the 1st or the last time ppl will complain about sofiene... That is why I even agreed to sunday: So all of this BS would stop. We wanted saturday to begin with(the forced date).
You told me quote "tlk only plays on sundays" several times, and v. qF only 1 out of 4 of our starters showed up on a sunday. And you're saying that WE wanted SUNDAY to get the upper hand on tLk? LOL. Kickr0 can't play on sundays. Teoich and gravgon both need to read the entire conversation that THIS came from before they can pass fair judgment:
[21:02] <haunted> SUNDAY 21 CET SOUNDS GREAT BUDDY
to teoich/gravgon, just ask sofiene for the rest of the entire conversation and see what he says.... it shows how much he has been lying. Of course, sofiene can post it right here and prove me wrong, go ahead. So teoich, if you want "Facts" and to see the bigger "picture"... ask him for the entire convo.
First he tried to tell me that All euroq2l matches are played on sundays, then it switched to tlk only playing on sundays... lol. So I pm'd gravgon and even asked if all matches had to be played on sunday, although it took awhile for him to get back to me. Then I asked sofiene the same exact question arch proposed: "how do you expect to participate in a league if you can only play on one day?" and all he did was keep demanding sunday. Ask him for the conversation.... it will show exactly what I'm saying.
I'm sure if TS won there would be another attitude.
brikete: you quite lame, you should leave.
and about some facts you need to see the whole "picture" before truly understand it. E.g. even if tLk pracced another day beside Sunday, was just a pracc. Some, like me that day, couldn't play "seriously" for various reasons. Maybe I was disturbed? U honestly think I wanna play a real eq2l then? maybe i was tired? etc. etc. pcw and a real game cannot be compared. this was a big mistake to have that as a fact of proof.
and I just wanna point out, I was not against home/away at first, but now I dunno what would be the fairest. Staters seem to ping better in Europe than us in US with ~200 ping, and esp. if they would play in UK which for some reason I ping quite bad, sof even worse and maybe 1-2 more of our clan mates. Then we jump into TS:4 or smth, with 160-230 in pings against 30-40's. yeee...that's not so fair.
Those pings wasnt that bad lol. even fader with 95....c'mon...
Gravgon, yes, everybody do mistakes. But not everybody understands them. sofiene failed in understanding. If it were you, you kindly apologised after your mistake/s and once again we were perfect. But its different case. With different kind of person.
This case should be closed now since we know with what kind of admin/player we have business. Sofiene is too young for internet so far and acting a bit like a child. I hope this case with his behavior was a good kick in his ass and will boost him up for better! There can't be any grudge around the internet.
Ahem, "not fail as an admin" he has failed in not knowing the rules to EuroQ2league. After the game ended SOFI himself, voted q2dm3 without saying anything to team tasty. I'm like aren't you supposed to kick maps in mm2 asking barton and went and loaded up the rules for myself. (not that I havn't read them before.) And find rule "2.13b In case of a tie (2-2 score), the 5th map is picked as follow: - For games played on a neutral server(*): the clan which scored the most frags after the 4 first maps can choose who starts to eliminate the maps out of the remaining-maps list." I let haunted know through irc, and then saying that you have to kick maps after all 4 of tLk is ready to play. Sofi was like wtf??? no??? I told him the admin to go review the rules before the game started. Then after 5mins (must be a slow reader) to find the rule and review it, finally agreed to kick maps. Then it was dandy, until he had to say one of our starters "sucks dick."
TLR; Sofi is a kid with power as an "admin" because he has the time. He was terrible to schedule with, and very childish as an admin to have to get another admin consult each team then force it to saturday, then only play on sunday tlk comes back into play. GG whatever, it's only a game.
Erm. I just need to clear something out here: I understand that we're awesome and it's perfectly right to look up to us but admins are just regular human beings and regular Q2 players.
So just like every other players, we can do and say stupid things in the heat of the game and we also badly want to win the matches with our clan.
That's called passion and it's a good sign if an admin still has some.
Anybody who's known me as a player knows that I'm a rather sore loser and that I can be a major whiner... In the long run, I think people learned to judge me -the admin- on my actions as an admin and not as a player.
You should do that with sofiene too and I can tell you that he's a very helpful element in the admin crew.
He might have acted unsportsmanlike and said stupid things as a player but he didn't fail as an admin.
Haunted pointed out a good note: being an admin you must think as an admin. It was never enough just to "wish" to be an admin.
sofiene, this time you failed to be an admin, you failed to be a captain of clan, you failed to show sportmanship and a fair play, you failed to show a proper behavior as a player.
To win a game in all possible dirty ways - you are too young for this game, sofiene. Anyway, I am happy tasty won dm1 - this just proved how clan can be badly affected by inappropriate clanleader/admin
Sofiene, I know the rules. You keep re-iterating that you have the right to decline home/away.... We know this rule, and we have never demonstrated otherwise. I repeat, you have NO need to remind us, and if a team does decide to play home/away with us we're very grateful for it, it's a very nice gesture for fair play.. We never expected any team to do it at all to be honest, so really it has never been a problem to begin with. So yeah, please stop saying that we don't know that rule when it is a complete lie. The only reason why we complained anyway is because we were playing hpb on your map you tried to pick(q2dm3) for a neutral deciding map.
If anyone needs some work on the rules, it's you sofiene.. You were demanding that we play at DFNL when we went there briefly to test it out, when the rules say that we play at the best pinging Europeon server for Americans. That is DFUK for the vast majority of US players. You and your team also voted q2dm3 and readied up against us, without even doing the proper map drop procedure.
maybe your need to be a jerk to USA made you overlook some rules yourself??
and lol @ a euroq2l admin justifying his actions(shit talk during and after this match) by just showing a random insult to him by adrenaline. That is how a child thinks...
and yeah, barton is right I was being sarcastic, mocking your inflexibility by demanding sunday only.. post the rest of the conversation so everyone can see. We both know you won't... you're pathetic sofiene... I'm done lowering myself to your level by even attempting to reason with you ;>
The scheduling for this match was needlessly a pain in the arse, because for some reason Sofiene refused to play on any other day besides Sunday. He said that day was the only day his clan could play, but that's probably a lie cuz on the same day that he told this to haunted (Wednesday, October 12th), five minutes later we saw him and his clan playing three practice matches against qF on cybergames.it. In that log sofiene posted, clearly haunted was being sarcastic, because at that point he was already tired of Sofiene's inflexibility. If Sunday was really fine, then the match would have been played two weeks ago.
I really hope that other clans don't have to put up with the nonsense Sofiene was giving us. He seems very unreasonable at times and willing to do unsportsmanlike actions in order for his clan to have an advantage over his opponents, whether it's being inflexible on match dates or conveniently ignoring rules. On the last map of the match, this guy immediately voted up dm3 after gaining the frag advantage in a 1:1 situation. Sofiene wouldn't let maps be dropped until someone on tasty pointed out the rules and the fact that we were playing on a neutral server. Since Sofience is an admin, and has been a ref for a bunch of games, it should have been apparent that maps should have been dropped. I seriously doubt the dude had some sort of mental relapse, but rather conveniently forgot about the rules so that he could get the map that he wanted.
haunted,rules say that i can choose btw home/away or euro server,i chose euro,it is the rules. i allways add a description in the matches that i play,and i think thses words (rape,ownage etc...) describe well what happened in dm6,or am i wrong ?
adren insult me evrytime i see him and no-one talk [01:43] <adreN_-> look at that shit [01:43] <adreN_-> already doing it 01[01:44] <@sofiene> yep 01[01:44] <@sofiene> im happy with it [01:44] <adreN_-> it = cock in mouth [01:44] <adreN_-> ? and when i talk shit about him,you are all after me.....
about sunday : [21:02] <haunted> SUNDAY 21 CET SOUNDS GREAT BUDDY ......
and about dm6,slugs and adren left the team after some mins,and you just camped the spawn pads,only fader was trying to get some frags and big respect to him.
also,talking about admining,i think im doing a not bad job in here,at least,i care about q2 and i dont whine....
That the ping sucked, well that is a matter of sportsmanship.
To say that your clan only plays on sundays is complete bs. You cant even join this league if that's the case. I hope this isn't true
About admins, there isn't really a big choice in who will run the league. Sofiene is willing to spend time on it while nobody else is, so he is an admin.
I know beating us is SO important to you sofiene, hence why you didn't do home/away, but really? Lets be real here... should read:
"xaw beat up on some hpb's and fgh backed him up"
<Hunta> <uvula> (dfuk) sofiene[tLk]: cause you suck <@sofiene> yeah <Hunta> guess thats how admins are <Hunta> <@sofiene> ill say it <MCS_FaderJok0> <@sofiene> adren suck <@sofiene> got a problem ?
^sofiene, a euroq2l admin, exhibiting bad sportsmanship both during and after the match. Most tlk members are friendly though, some of which apologized to me for sofiene/xaw's actions during and after the match.
It was the hardest thing for us to even schedule with tlk, solely due to sofiene, being that he refused to play on any day except for sunday...
<haunted> Please man, only 1 out of 4 of our starters showed up v. qF on sunday, is there any other day we can possibly play on? <sofiene> tlk only play on sunday
according to him, team tastyspleen was "afraid to play tlk on sunday since they wouldn't do home/away"... all I can do is laugh at that, being that no matter the day they still wouldn't have done home/away, and we of course already knew that to begin with. I feel sorry for him that he has to act that way and lie, to be honest. I also feel bad for tLk and euroq2l, that they have such an incapable person representing them as a team leader / league admin.
Additionally, I'd like to apologize to tLk for the 2 tastyspleen members who left during dm6 for about 2 minutes(the description above sounds like we all left for half the match). We invited them back to the team, they accepted, and the match finished at least, although I'm sorry again it was such a fiasco.
Anyway, I'm just glad that this match is out of the way, lol. Other team captains have expressed similar frustration with scheduling w/ sofiene as well.
Since tLk failed to show their sportmanship of not playing home/away, its really pity what you teioch said. tLk was afraid to loose. Tasty just showed they were twice better than tLk that day.
Nice work tLk mates ! And since seb, dugz and me wasn't available for that time I thank fgh especially for being there!
Cajjo, no ones fault....just some bad luck again ^^ extremely close dm1 like that other dm1 game vs GF.
Tasty truly left the team after 10 mins? That's really no good sport behaviour....to Tasty-: check out our game vs rPWR on dm8 or dm5....it is called....fight till the end even if u happen to loose 300 - 0 ! lol..
We haven't miss a single game so far since our start of eq2l....so many clans have so much to learn from tLk after all. Skillz is not all that makes a clan pr0. 'Nuff said !
Tastyspleen
sofiene
R; Sofi is a kid with power as an "admin" because he has the time. He was terrible to schedule with, and very childish as an admin to have to get another admin consult each team then force it to saturday, then only play on sunday tlk comes back into play. GG whatever, it's only a game.
gg
