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Allstar game!

2010-03-31 14:55 | ph

The crew has decided to arrange an allstar showgame in a near future, but we need your help!

Down on your right is a poll where you can vote for your favourite player out of 12 options. These 12 finalists were selected by asking 4 players from each div1 clan + the admin crew to give 2 names each, and the top 12 are now availible for everyone registered on q2scene to vote for. So help us out and make this allstar game something to remember!

The top 8 players from this poll will be split into 2 teams, which will then play a thrilling best of five-game where all 5 maps will be played regardless of the mapscore. The admin crew will make an effort to create evenly matched teams from the chosen players and we are looking forward to seeing who will be selected by you!

The all-star poll will be closed this Sunday at 21 cet! So hurry up with your votes and drag your mates that have not yet voted!

Comments

mobiuz	2010-04-27 11:28
	http://xkcd.com/386/
thaigo	2010-04-23 12:30
	Cheimera, so u knew the truth too.
rl	2010-04-23 12:24
	R-3-V-0
Revo_	2010-04-23 11:53
	FU both and STFU!
Cheimera	2010-04-23 11:44
	hahah a 100% expected comment from you
thaigo	2010-04-23 00:10
	Yeh we agree, eventho only one of us have done that...
Cheimera	2010-04-22 13:07
	haha something we agree on!
thaigo	2010-04-22 11:32
	Yeah agreed. I don't want to talk to a truckload of shit.
Cheimera	2010-04-21 11:34
	thaigo and why the hell do you think its like that? Cause ive written tons of statements and questions etc and all you do is answer the ones the suits you the best,if you answer at all... Usually you just pull some drug addict card or something else that has nothing to do with it. And all the ones you cant answer you simply don't. So lets stop it, i dont talk to you and you dont talk to me. put ignore and we have a problem solved. Cause seriously i dont see the point in talking to a pile of shit.
DM	2010-04-21 10:38
	jerking my cock off while reading
Delita	2010-04-21 07:40
	With half the skill. Btw rl, I dunno what shite you are trying to pull here, you're the biggest fake of em all. One of those wannabe fad artists for the scene. You're just a moron with no skill and a big mouth. Edited: 2010-04-21 07:41
rl	2010-04-21 07:12
	thaigo = delita
thaigo	2010-04-21 06:22
	Another bullshit comment ala cheimera. He is just trashtalking without anything to give for this threat. "Oh, thaigo commented, ill just bs my way out of this even if he had valid arguments".
Cheimera	2010-04-20 08:52
	"Fucking hilarious how some ppl can misread given text(maybe they are just plain dumb?)." Atleast you know its REALLY thaigo speaking there and not duco or someone =). Cause, if you dont think exactly has thaigo or see things in his way, then you are STUPID! Thats all the info you need before you start a discussion with him .
raskal	2010-04-20 04:54
	5x200mg Tramal Retard
thaigo	2010-04-19 09:54
	Clown(s) -1
rl	2010-04-19 09:48
	fake -1
Menendes	2010-04-19 09:47
	whatever u ppl smoking u should stop Offi +1
wision	2010-04-19 08:54
	we care about you thaigo! :LOVE:
thaigo	2010-04-19 07:43
	We are not trying to say we would be unbeatable. The only thing me/gerppa/slippi tried to say that we couldn't care less what happened in groupstage since it's a big joke to begin with. The only matches we have cared about for a long time have been playoffs for obvious reasons. Like I said earlier, might sound cocky, but that's the way it was for us. Btw, exactly when did you come better? I see you lost 3-0 to muffzors in first playoff round.Well, maybe that's an improvement then I dunno. And if noone here wouldn't care about QL, why do I have 20+ friends from Q2 at friendlist in QL. Edited: 2010-04-19 07:48
Revo_	2010-04-19 07:25
	thaigo, previous seasons? who cares about previous seasons? And if we played so bad last seasons, then its positive that we have become better now dont you think? Its just so fun to read that you have to try and explain for yourself that you are unbeatable kinda pathetic.. and noone here cares about q3/ql
thaigo	2010-04-19 07:00
	Fucking hilarious how some ppl can misread given text(maybe they are just plain dumb?). Revo, yeah you beat us in groupstage game as you would beat us in playoffs...No, wait! You sucked so bad in the previous seasons you didn't ever get to play us in the playoffs You are seriously corrupted if you don't see a difference beetween interpritation of rules for me and anyone else. Rules are the same, but I have to upload every game I play, but others don't have to even when players ask them to Be sure to tune in for bronzegame FIN vs NL in qlctf tonight 20cet as your favourite clan Wizards plays as team Finland(levelupyourgame or holysh1t for stream). RL, your keyboard seems to be smoking, but no text is coming out... Edited: 2010-04-19 07:18
rl	2010-04-19 06:59
	don't play the fool gerppa, you know exactly what i mean...i'm not talking about your prev. post, i'm talking about all these things in general...
Revo_	2010-04-19 06:44
	Now for the conclusion... Wizards is unbeatable! (yes peoples, you heard right!). If you see a screen or something where they actually lose, its just because they simply dont care about that game. I never thought that Wizards were so bad losers, you just cant admit that a team plays better than you, can you? You have to come up with lame excuses that makes you look like a bunch of idiots tbh. I had respect for you guys before (and i still do have respect for some of you), but after your lame comments im glad that you decided to drop the league.
Offi	2010-04-18 16:25

gerppa	2010-04-18 14:41
	rl wrote: "let me get this straight gerppa...so according to you, it's all about your (wizards) activity, your pings and you taking cw/pcw seriously or not....right? but looks like you don't know (or most likely you don't wanna see/know?) that other teams/players also CAN BE less active, have shitty pings or take q2 less seriously...i hope you realize what does it mean...but i can understand your trolling and childish behavior...spending so much time with thaigo gives you rights to act like that...but i believe you will be a normal guy some day..." I dont really get what you mean with trolling and childish behaviour in my posts, i just tried to explain the sitsuation to ones wondering why something has happened - as slippi wrote it now aswell. And my posts were directed mostly for Revo saying this and the previous: "Menendes, the difference between "our games" is that mine actually matters since its official, you just show a bunch of PCW screens that doesnt matter at all. And when you say that Wizards didnt take our eq2l game seriously BUT they take all our pcws seriously.. dont you think that sounds kinda stupid? pathetic comments by a pathetic faker"
Cheimera	2010-04-18 14:02
	Yeah something like that
slippi	2010-04-18 13:50
	What I meant was that in this season and with this number of clans, only 4 should have made it to the playoffs (or 6 if 2 directly and other 4 eliminate). Maybe it sounds brutal, but at least there is motivation in group-stage games. For example, 2 best clans get directly to the semi-finals. If i remember correctly, the structure was something like this before qrwa dropped or am I wrong?
Cheimera	2010-04-18 13:25
	yeh true, you have a point there slippi no doubt. But anyway, atleast for me its about playing matches, its fun to play so i wanna play, no only the important games. Sounds like if you could choose, you would choose to jump directly to the playoffs. if you see what i mean
slippi	2010-04-18 12:31
	Nice off-topic indeed. Almost took an hour to browse it through :] Cheimera wrote: And about that 8 clans go to playoffs you dident see it so important is understandable for sure. But i have really hard to believe that you dont play 100%, you always play on 100% in league, games its not like you go grenades only or do some other wierd shit in an official game, every1 trys to rape if they get the chance and if its close they always try to win. Hehe. That would be true if group-stage games have had a meaning. I can honestly say that in couple of games my playing included: a couch, 50 inch lcd and wireless keyboard & mouse. What we needed was like 1 or 2 victories in 4 months so whats the point? :-P I have better things to do. Edited: 2010-04-18 12:32
necro	2010-04-18 11:44
	i have pretty vagina
Cheimera	2010-04-18 09:12

thaigo	2010-04-18 09:11
	You could have written it like this: Hey i am cheimera i respond to what fits me best emo suprise If you seriously don't see anything wrong with the demo-issue, youre totally braindamaged and/or corrupted. Take your head out of your ass and come to this world. Edited: 2010-04-18 09:12
Cheimera	2010-04-18 08:59
	haha yeh whatever, cat got your tounge huh? =) what a suprise, you become Mr.norespond every time you are out of words, and starts blaming inrrelevant things you have no clue about =). And you are saying "keep it to the subject"? Says the guy who would bring up his living hell on earth when he has to give away demos he already has agreed to do when signing for a league. Hey i am thaigo i respond to what fits me best suprise
wision	2010-04-18 08:46
	you all seem to "rest your case" (thaigo included, even tho he deleted it from his comment).. but yet you keep arguing.. guess you have too much free time
Bobek	2010-04-18 08:33
	this offtopic is so epic...
thaigo	2010-04-18 08:31
	Yeah, you seem to rest your case with failure quite often
Cheimera	2010-04-18 07:52
	hahahah see thats what i am talking about I rest my case once again =)
thaigo	2010-04-18 07:42
	I didn't actually understand any of that comment, propably because it was some random imaginary bs that makes no sense whatsoever. If you don't see anything wrong in that demosharing matter, which u seem to pass with simply imaginary world comments, then ure seriously braindamaged. Next time you comment on something, try commenting about the matter itself and do it without drugs. THX!
Cheimera	2010-04-18 07:29
	Well wision has the right to comment as he wants, the same way as you are allowed to talk about your admin conspiracy theories. Which is just so funny i don't know if to laugh or cry to be honest. You know, it's so fun to read those conspiracy theories ala Muerte/Thaigo cause, haha its so funny how you ACTUALLY REALLY BELIEVE in it 100% That we live some kind of cyber über society world where we have POWER and keeps planning all days like a fucking world of warcraft guild how we are going to take over mohahaha! over WHAT!? Uploading screens and telling people to play their games?! . AND OH its ONLY thaigo we are hunting, but wait? Did we not hear something similar before? Oh yeh back then we were hunting Russians only but that changed when another none russian got punished for something . Comeee ooon ffs wake up, stop it, i don't care who wins or who plays or whatever, been playing this game for to long to care... Thaigo you are the one talking about "counter-reaction" for like i don't know how long. By admins asking for your demos ONLY now maybe thats an counter-reaction? But different from you, it's an counter-reaction that does not break any of the general rules. So by you being the "trouble-kid" that always have issues and always fucking shit up, (but the rest of the players can manage just fine) maybe it means the admins are fucking fed up with you so they make your excistens miserable as YOU SAY using an in this case LEGIT "counter-reaction" cause you are making theirs? But ofc now this is where you will always have right, and it would not even matter if it was only you thinking you are right and 5000 players saying you are wrong you would still hold on to your ego, we do know it =). And you talking about other players maybe tired of the "corruption", FFS thaigo you do it again! You can only manage to see the point of view that gains you the best. There are two possible scenarios, either you are right and everybody is tired of the big bad "ADMIN CORRUPTION" cause your demos are being demanded . OR maybe its just only you that is the problem? Since no one else have problems but you? Think twice and think more widely, you are like an guy stuck in an igloo . All you know and care about is YOU. Cheers, buddy
rl	2010-04-18 07:00
	let me get this straight gerppa...so according to you, it's all about your (wizards) activity, your pings and you taking cw/pcw seriously or not....right? but looks like you don't know (or most likely you don't wanna see/know?) that other teams/players also CAN BE less active, have shitty pings or take q2 less seriously...i hope you realize what does it mean...but i can understand your trolling and childish behavior...spending so much time with thaigo gives you rights to act like that...but i believe you will be a normal guy some day...
thaigo	2010-04-18 06:41
	Even if wision is not in the admins list, he surely seems to act like one. Even that comment there says it. I don't care if someone else has problems with admins or not, maybe they are just so sheeps or tired to admins behaviour and corruption and don't care anymore. Seems the rules are a bit different for everyone else but me when I have to upload and share every game that I play, but when ppl actually want to watch some demo, they still don't get it. I bet if I had played good that game and didn't share that demo, I would have been banned in this league too. Sad, but thats just how most admins are; corrupted children.
kolt	2010-04-18 05:30
	i missed thaigos comments the way he is showing/creating facts in his way is superb i didnt see the demo yet but i suppose it is nice so well done revo and keep uploading good demos
Revo_	2010-04-18 03:38
	As far as i know wision isnt even an admin this season. And i asked ph if it was ok if i didnt upload it. So if you want to have an answer from the admins thaigo the first thing you should do is to actually ask them, not ask chm who has nothing to do with this league :] Edited: 2010-04-18 03:41
Cheimera	2010-04-17 22:47
	yeh as you have done, the only one who has so many problems. You ever stopt and thought for yourself? Why the hell am i the only one with so many issues? How come 99% of the players have no troubles? they just play their games and have fun according to the league. jeez
thaigo	2010-04-17 22:17
	And here I thought admins were here to serve the community...
Cheimera	2010-04-17 21:47
	lol first of all, whats so corrupt when they dont break a rule? Second of all you agree to the rule when you join the league. Third of all, everyone knows your DEMO SECRECY is just something to bitch about with the admins. Cause really whats the harm done? =) Anyway i wont even comment anymore on that subject cause its so stupid. Go deny demos to the Quakelive admins instead
thaigo	2010-04-17 20:23
	Cheimera, that exactly shows how corrupted admins are. They just want every fucking demo from me, eventho noone wants to watch them. Then when someone other than me plays good and many people ask for that demo, admins don't even bother to ask the player for that demo. Fucking pathetic from admins.
Cheimera	2010-04-17 18:59
	thaigo: Revo was never asked for the demo from the admins, only orther players who wanted to have a nice demo to look at. There is a difference. If you would have requested the demo cause you suspected something, i bet the admins would have gotten that demo. Atleast i would. Gerppa: Yeh true i have no idea, i was just speculating. You know best since you know your mates in games and so, so if you say so i believe you since you got a good reason for it as you explained about the group games layout. But i did explain why Revo uploaded it now, maybe he just got reminded from it because of the explanation, it could have been upload two days ago or two days ahead from now. And even if i am wrong and he did show off, so what who cares . But one thing is for sure, people seem to be so aware of what is beeing said about who and what that we forget the game itself and why we are here.
gerppa	2010-04-17 18:47
	"nah actually Revo said he was going to upload it before this discussion because i said he should, cause many players have asked for that demo if i could get it for the them from Revo." my bad then, but thats still how i see the picture... why else would he now feel the need to upload it and not before when people actually asked for it.. and what comes to that "you dont think people dont play 100% in league-games" - you should ask slippi/thaigo/provi about their attitude towards groupgames and how serious they play on those or takes those.. its like a night and a day, like i said for me they are the same,trying my best in no matter official game..
thaigo	2010-04-17 18:18
	Funny how admins are corrupted about that demo thing for example. Revo didn't even get a yellow card for not sharing that demo, but I get yellow/red/bans/u name it. Like u said, many ppl wanted that demo from revo and he jsut didn't share it and wisions answer for that demo was: "forget about the demo.. he's not sharing it"
Cheimera	2010-04-17 15:58
	nah actually Revo said he was going to upload it before this discussion because i said he should, cause many players have asked for that demo if i could get it for the them from Revo. And about that 8 clans go to playoffs you dident see it so important is understandable for sure. But i have really hard to believe that you dont play 100%, you always play on 100% in league, games its not like you go grenades only or do some other wierd shit in an official game, every1 trys to rape if they get the chance and if its close they always try to win.
gerppa	2010-04-17 15:04
	"Menendes, the difference between "our games" is that mine actually matters since its official, you just show a bunch of PCW screens that doesnt matter at all. And when you say that Wizards didnt take our eq2l game seriously BUT they take all our pcws seriously.. dont you think that sounds kinda stupid? pathetic comments by a pathetic faker" Wouldnt want to come back to commentate on these crapthings going around us, but after reading how you guys comment about us, wizards, i felt the need to... Saying we dont take those groupgames serious is partly true, i myself play them all for winning, but its the lack of interest of the groupstage for the others on us. Before the league even started and we saw 8 goes directly to playoffs most of us didnt even feel like playing untill the playoffs and then make few pracs to get in good shape, i cant say which of those pracscreens are before the "real-games" (during last season playoffs, cause its the time when we do take pcws serious to get in shape for the playoff-games that matter). I dont understand why you make this as a big thing, i bet it wouldnt been a big thing if we did have four willing players to finish the league and end in top3 again, but thats not the case when 3 of our main squad decided to jump off the q2 when the ban for thaigo happened in other leagues such as EDL and 2x2?. I had much respect for Revo before, as a player and a person, but after seeing how he judges us and uploads a demo just for showing out the win on us this late, when all this talk came out - is just lame. I rest my case, no hard feelings thats just how i see things in here.
Cheimera	2010-04-17 13:51
	haha Revo i couldent have said it better myself =)
Revo_	2010-04-17 13:44
	Menendes, the difference between "our games" is that mine actually matters since its official, you just show a bunch of PCW screens that doesnt matter at all. And when you say that Wizards didnt take our eq2l game seriously BUT they take all our pcws seriously.. dont you think that sounds kinda stupid? pathetic comments by a pathetic faker
kolt	2010-04-17 13:42
	yep its some1 from serbia prolly muerte ur ban was removed muerte u can use ur nick
Cheimera	2010-04-17 12:53
	Menendes use your real nick or your comments has no weight at all... Or should i say muerte?
rl	2010-04-17 12:36
	menendes = fake
Menendes	2010-04-17 10:17
	@Revo if you get raped like this http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/153/wizvsbam.jpg disrespectful talk about opponent its silly http://challenge-tv.com/demos/view/37286 no wonder why Wizards didn't took group match vs BAM seriously i hope your respond on DS will bring more then one fuckedup demo...
biah	2010-04-17 09:13
	OMG I banned thaigo!? That's new stuff Could anyone enlighten me?
Cheimera	2010-04-16 10:29
	i would most certainly not be able to watch some pcw demos =)
masteris	2010-04-16 10:06
	2 Revo_: well PCW's didnt mean anything.. Only maybe a friendly TRAINING game nothing more, but even there could be interesting and nice games! And if it was.. I guess many ppl will gladly watch some demos from there too. I can be wrong but its my opinion.
Cheimera	2010-04-16 09:42
	thaigo true i relate to that, it was really hard to get pcw's, only div2 teams were practising and playing which is the main reason why we play the game, cause its fun. Some thing should be done, the domination from certain teams like wiz play hbq made the league itself uninteresting and people rather played in div2, cause thats where the excitement has been the past years. And yeh you are right it sounds cocky, but only you guys in wizards knows how things really are. And the rest of us, like my opinions are exactly that, just opinions and speculations. Dont take it so seriously.
thaigo	2010-04-16 07:55
	Cheimera, it's not excuses, but the simple truth. Just ask anyone from Wizards. These 1-2 map losses in groupstage have happened many times before, but the end of the league, same teams are on top. About last year it started to get really boring when there was no opponents to prac with, only few teams that we could play even games with and even some of those teams didn't want to play us saying we are too good. Lack of intrest in anything but playoffs. For some of you it might sound cocky, but that's just how it was and it was sad. Edited: 2010-04-16 07:56
Z1on	2010-04-16 06:52
	AssLiCkers First they ban the pathetic ThG but from the other side ,they tries to invites him for euroql (biah),and now even agree so bad with him,so who is the winner here ,just rewind the type... pathetic
Cheimera	2010-04-16 05:40
	hahahhahah thaigo! Watch out for the BIG BAD GOD! (admin) hahahah you actually see admining as god work? those were your words man do not blame it on me =) And thaigo we just looove to read your excuses about wizards . "we dont care about group games" what do you mean so you only played 50% of your skill? haha yeh right =). Or is it actually about the simpel fact that you are average without Provi =). rule nr1: If you actually suck, BLAME SOMETHING! haha xD Menendes: pulled the pcw card? Well we won maps vs wiz, hbq, play, t0k, 3M with a fucking random team as QRWA, do you think those results mather shit? its pcwn ffs! you dont brag around with pcw results... I bet even thaigo would agree with that... And i agree also with thaigo that groupstage should mather more. Edited: 2010-04-16 05:45
Revo_	2010-04-15 19:33
	Menendes, i can upload plenty of demos when we are playing PCWs vs wizards if you want to? Who cares about PCWs? please we dont need more idiots in this scene and you dont even play the game so.. just su.. and i agree with thg that groupstage should matter more, not only feel like a bunch of warmup games that doesnt count in the end anyways
arch^	2010-04-15 17:12
	http://q2scene.net/euroq2l/index.php?op=descr&id=66225 Though I agree with thg, playoffs matter more! Edited: 2010-04-15 17:14
Menendes	2010-04-15 16:26
	Revo Wizards dont need provi, thaigo or syanid to beat BAM like kids on BAM home server http://challenge-tv.com/demos/view/37284
masteris	2010-04-15 14:41
	Why so hard to believe in something new.. m.uffzors have good squad like every time some team are weaker other are stronger.. The true believers thou shall be saved, brothers keep strong in the faith on the day of rockoning it's who dares, wins! - you will see the jokers soon'll be the new kings!
thaigo	2010-04-15 12:39
	Revo, read my comment about eq2l before posting next time. Every single season for as long as I can remember, it has been the same clans in top3 over and over. Hbq, play, wizards and occasionally 3M and 2.0 if they have played and when they haven't, at least 2.0 players have played in either play or hbq. I'm sure that it's the same for other top clans as it was for wizards that they don't care so much about groupgames, because those just don't mean anything. Once you get to playoffs, it starts to matter and those teams mentioned have always been on top. So it doesn't mean anything if some random nub team wins a topteam in a groupgame. Sure it's nice that some other clan can break into that top-group, but the reason why they are there, is something else than playing good. Edited: 2010-04-15 13:01
Revo_	2010-04-15 11:42
	seems that thaigo cant take that wizards isnt the top clan anymore "the whole euroq2l skill level is a joke", what a pathetic thing to say but i guess you couldnt came up with anything else btw, we won against wizards at both n1 and dm3, m won both n1 and dm3 against us.... i rest my case
thaigo	2010-04-15 11:29
	Covell, when has ever muffzors played in div1 before or even played pcw's with div1 clans? Or did you suddenly get really good after playing 5 years or is it because the whole euroq2l skill-level seems to be a joke. Wonder which is it...
CoVell	2010-04-15 11:09
	What´s wrong with muffies? In my memories, wizards didnt rape us... and in dm2 you guys barely won... thaigo , doesnt u have to be with your kiddie friend gerppa or in gym??? You have problems, maybe try to get laid... or dunno what´s up with you!!! And BTW, if whole allstar and eq2l and stuff is for you bullshit and joke, why DA FUCK U still visit this site and PEEK scores and etc?????? My recommendation , Just vanish and noone will miss ya Edited: 2010-04-15 11:15
thaigo	2010-04-15 10:14
	RL, you're an idiot for thinking I would want to play in this so called "eq2l-allstars". It's a joke to begin with. Whole eq2l this season is a joke, muffzors top4 roooooooooooofl Cheimera, I'm not saying everyone is stupid in this case, only you. And about QL, it's a lot better in a way that they don't let just any idiot, who is willing to spend time playing god, to be an admin. Edited: 2010-04-15 10:27
rl	2010-04-15 09:46
	cheim Never argue with an idiot. The idiot will drag you down to his level and then beat you with his experience. thaigo This is "eq2l allstar" -> You're not a star, and you're not playing it this (eq2l) league + you're an idiot (and it's not an insult...it's just who you are). btw. Don't bother replaying cause I'm not even gonna read it and I don't give a shit about you and your "opinions"...
NiGGY	2010-04-15 09:32
	LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!!!.... it was funny and great to read all this comments...
Cheimera	2010-04-15 07:57
	there he is, thaigo in a nutshell, you keep proving me right all the time =) i am right, you are wrong, no mather what, even opinions are wrong everything that you dont say or think or anyobdy who doesent agree with you are wrong. And if anyone has a different opinion from you they are stupid etc etc etc =). Go back to QL now thaigo, it has been calm and everything has worked perfectly, and the way things are supposed to work since you vanished have been great. as you said: "Luckily I don't have to put up with that shit anymore" And we don't have to put up with you, so guess what? fuck off and its a win win situation. =)
thaigo	2010-04-15 06:58
	I didn't say u dont have your right to your opinion, even if it's an idiotic one. Wouldn't expectg anything less from u
Cheimera	2010-04-15 05:41
	i rest my case with a big smile on my face =)
arch^	2010-04-14 17:59
	Nop luxor, I have personally read comments by all the top players about themselves. All top players get some sort of attitude in the end, sadly Some less then others, that's all But I got your point. Edited: 2010-04-14 18:00
thaigo	2010-04-14 17:21
	Cheimera, then ure just simply wrong How could anyone play any better than win the league? I think that is impressive to say the least. Luxor, respect? Couldn't care less. Never gonna play q2 again so I don't really care what some nub thinks of me.
Cheimera	2010-04-14 17:05
	thaigo, by talking on the eq2l page, and in the news comments of the thread about the allstar game i obviously mean tdm in eq2l mode... Thats where it all start me talking about the allstar thread. quit twisting stuff again. And the reason why it takes 10posts for me to finally explain something to you is kind of obvious when you know the way you are. And for the record i dident ask you for an explenation about anything did i? I dont care about your reasons or whatever, all i did was make an statement but you made it escalade as you always do about everything and nothing... anyway you got your explenation, and still thaigo, its only opinions ffs... Edited: 2010-04-14 17:06
lux0r	2010-04-14 16:38
	arch: that is not true... there are a lot of players who are quiet and let their results and manner speak for itself... and they gain respect like that and thaigo is loosing his respect more and more with every post he makes...
sovet	2010-04-14 16:33
	One-leg retards are sexy. They never say "no" about anything.
CoVell	2010-04-14 16:20
	mam plz, arguing on the internet is like fucking a one leg retard...
thaigo	2010-04-14 16:09
	"And this allstar is about EQ2L so whatever you have done in other leagues doesent interest me a jack shit." First you talked about me being not impressive in tdm and now it's about euroq2l only? Try to decide which is it so we can talk about the same things. Finally some arguments to your opinion, and it took only ~10 posts to do it? Well I guess I should be "happy" cause it's certainly an improvement to your former posting habits. Like I mentioned earlier, I don't think I could have done much better in last euroq2l or 2on2 league(this is also tdm btw). As for this season, I think everyone knows we haven't been intrested in groupgames for a loooooong time, because those games don't mean shit. Those are just warmup for the 1-3 playoffs games that are yet to come and believe me, if some team wants to be in playoffs they will get there with this fucked up groupsystem of q2. Luckily I don't have to put up with that shit anymore Edited: 2010-04-14 16:10
Cheimera	2010-04-14 15:21
	thaigo ffs, thats statement was a feedback on you pulling your irl cards how hard can it be to understand? Or as you would say with your famous line "counter-attack" as i said keep it to the subject... And as i wrote i dont think that about you.... quit twisting stuff, you always keep doing that. Quit thinking so much on my opinion its just a god damn opinion as i have tryed to make you understand but as it seems i keep failing... And this allstar is about EQ2L so whatever you have done in other leagues doesent interest me a jack shit. But here it is cause you keep begging for it. But pls ffs its my opinion and i am certain many people doesent agree and some might agree. That the point of opinions. So for wizards and you in eq2l the past seasons. Here is as i see it: Provi in wizards and you guys were amazing, without all i can see is a wizards with -9 points and looses vs BAM & t0k and who knows what more if you wouldent have quit the league. And dont get me wrong i think you are an great player, great aim, great usage of your experience and good teamplayer. But the way you played back in the days was kick-ass compared to what i have seen from you the past year. And no i dont have any wierd personal feelings against, you, only thing pissing me off has been the lack of respect towards other players and admins and the leagues in total for a long time. thats it. And that story we do know and there is no point going through it again.
arch^	2010-04-14 14:44
	Then their are no true stars :'( Shame on q2 scene.
lux0r	2010-04-14 13:11
	thaigo, true stars never talk about themselves... it's just lame... I can't believe that u respond to that cheim statement...
thaigo	2010-04-14 12:15
	"where the hell did i say anything about you or someone having irl problems?" "If you have complexes take it with your shrink and not online in a fucking gaming community..." Seems like ure really fucked up, you can't even remember what u have written. I'm just wondering what are your arguments for having such an opinion that I haven't been "impressive" in tdm, because leagueperformances in games simply show the opposite. Right now your opinion is based on I dunno what the hell, except some weird personal feeling about me and that's just not a solid argument when talking about if someone has played good or not.
Cheimera	2010-04-14 10:33
	Thaigo there is no fucking way i would go into a discussion as that with someone as you. I already explained your mentality before "i am right you are wrong no mather what" mentality If i give you examples why I dont think you are even close to fit an Allstar game all you will keep doing is nagging about it and trying to prove me wrong in every singel way you can, and in the end you will just pull another IRL card on me. Give me one reason why i even should? And seriously whats up with you? Why in the hell is it so important for you to "talk me over" or is it just cause you like bitching about everything as you have done for years to admins about everything and nothing at all? Is my opinion about you so god damn important to you? =) "Maybe ure the one whose having problems irl?" Are your brain seriously damaged? where the hell did i say anything about you or someone having irl problems? thats your words and your way of discussing and "counter-attacking" when you dont know wtf to say. Do not drag me into your shit... keep it for yourself. Are we done? pls?
thaigo	2010-04-14 08:41
	Cheimera, you nicely put aside all the comments about performance in leagues and concentrate on irl- things. Maybe ure the one whose having problems irl?
Cheimera	2010-04-14 03:39
	nah thaigo, you keep blaming stuff, my opinion is ABSOLUTLY NOT cause i just simple doesent think you have been at your best the past years BUT OFC my opinion about you is ONLY because of my IRL smoking? Or my IRL lifestyle partying whatever you are pointing at. All that has to do with my opinion about your fuckign Q2 skills? lol... Do you seriously see how you function? You even have to defend yourself to the MAXIMUM on an freaking opinion? Dude you are insane... Conclusion: I think you are not fit for allstar (never said you are a bad player) and you think you are fit. ok? simpel as that, The end? Delita: Yeh but still its an endless discussion . Careem: Its not crazy, its called thinking a little deeper. Not many ppl does that. Edited: 2010-04-14 03:41
careem	2010-04-13 23:01
	Haha, Delita's comments are seriously crazy! =]]]
thaigo	2010-04-13 15:59
	Cheimera wrote: "And thaigo, an opinion is always an opinion it doesent have to mean shit to anyone, its up to each and one to decide that. It should be obvious for a guy in your age." thaigo wrote: "I dunno whats impressive to you if not winning the last euroq2l season and not losing a single map for 2 seasons in 2on2 league? Maybe our view of impressive differs you being a drug addict and "living like a rockstar". Perhaps a nicely shaped rock is impressive to you, who knows." This is me telling you that your opinion doesn't mean shit to me and explaining why(not just basing my opinions on random feelings). What's your problem? Biah, why would I want to play in an "allstar" game, when both teams are gonna be so bad they would be owned by active wizards(which will never be in q2 anymore tho) or current season play? Actually why would anyone want to play in a game like that? Maybe if it was called Sundays free for all entertainment game then yeah I get the point of wanting to play. Edited: 2010-04-13 16:13
Delita	2010-04-13 14:50
	Chei, now you see the Quake 2 community from my point of view. Diverting the conversation to avoid the hard facts. It's called denial and derives from the reinforcement of a delusional belief from cluster of individuals in which don't know better. Am example of this is seen every day in religion. One bolsters his own belief by communing with his fellow belivers and thus, ends up with the self reinforced delusion that god 'must' exist. Same principle happens to Quake 2 community pretty much. But, I will probably be told I am wrong by the majority of this community as people tend to see numbers over indentifiable facts. People don't realise that by doing this they are only proving I am right, it's like a proximity loophole that you can't win.
biah	2010-04-13 13:30
	Well as for me , thaigo could be in All-Star game ... it's only he didn't get enough (or any) votes to get in-to the poll ...
Cheimera	2010-04-13 13:01
	okej thaigo: This is the reason why there is no point talking to you "You are wrong! I am right! ALWAYS!" This is the part making you look stupid "omg you are that and you do that IRL!" (shows you are speechless thats why you pull shit like that) An example of me pulling same stuff on you would be something like: "omg you think you are best and knows best cause you just work out all days long cause you have so much complexes so you have to make a big bicep in order to feel good and important" (now i dont think that but thats an stupid example of why irl pulling is just childish, kind of similar shit you try on me and i have no idea why the fuck you even do it instead of keeping the discussion to the subject) And thaigo, an opinion is always an opinion it doesent have to mean shit to anyone, its up to each and one to decide that. It should be obvious for a guy in your age. You just keep entertaining me with your comments man, keep it at level where you dont start mocking people for stuff and keep it to the subject pls. Cause i am starting to feel bad for you.
thaigo	2010-04-13 12:17
	Cheimera, I'm just saying your opinion doesn't mean shit as it is not based on anything...except your drug surrounded feelings perhaps.
NumaveZi	2010-04-13 11:13
	FUCK OFF fuckin' whiners.Talking about ISBJORN and c12 when they are atleast 10x better then you.Big mouths and low skill CHEERS from NORTH POLE
Delita	2010-04-13 11:10
	All this nonsence over an allstar match. At the end of the day, define allstar... it is just someone who has developed a name for himself within the scene. Doesn't matter if they are good or bad teamplayers, seems all you deluded dipsticks want to see now days is hollywood rails and flashy jumps.
CoVell	2010-04-13 10:33
	Duco, refresh my memory again, pls?
onimusha	2010-04-13 09:39
	No matter what, euroq2l all star game should be for active players, not for quitters.
Cheimera	2010-04-13 08:10
	hahaha sorry man, my bad, you do facts =). Thx for correcting me
Delita	2010-04-13 07:59
	Heh, I don't do opinions.
Cheimera	2010-04-13 07:19
	look at you. You are actually arguing about someones opinion. =). I have my opinion and i dont need to explain myself, the same as everyone else has their opinion, Delita, Duco, wision, masteris, niggy, gravgon or any other player just to pick a few. What are you trying by using "rockstar leagues" and other "wierd shit" that has nothing to do with this? And other shit like that in your comments. Feels like i am talking to either an retard or an 5 year old when you are pulling your IRL cards do you actually think you are getting to me somehow? . Hurting my feelings or something? Thaigo you are a big pile of horseshit. Go and hide under a stone. And come back when everything doesent orbit around you. Edited: 2010-04-13 07:21
thaigo	2010-04-13 04:51
	Opinion based on what? Hello earth calling for cheimera! There's only 2 tdm leagues going on, not 3 or 4, those rockstar leagues dont exist anywhere but your imagination. I couldn't possible have done any MUCH better in those 2 actual leagues. Which tdm leagues are going on in your head?
Cheimera	2010-04-12 23:17
	oh thaigo keeps twisting things, and the moon goes up in the night and the sun goes down, everything is in order, my point was that you were like 200% better a couple of years ago... ffs whats wrong with you, always something is it? Just an opinion... But in your world opinions arent welcome, unless they are yours. That is something you have atleast proven... And whats that? you pull the IRL card on me? A cybernetic organsim like you? If you have complexes take it with your shrink and not online in a fucking gaming community... Edited: 2010-04-12 23:21
thaigo	2010-04-12 16:28
	Cheimera wrote: " And Careem talks about wanting provi/thaigo? Yeh provi i do get but thaigo is and havent been impressing in tdm for years, i choose gerppa any day before him in todays q2." I dunno whats impressive to you if not winning the last euroq2l season and not losing a single map for 2 seasons in 2on2 league? Maybe our view of impressive differs you being a drug addict and "living like a rockstar". Perhaps a nicely shaped rock is impressive to you, who knows. Oh, voted for cheimera. GL!
Gravgon	2010-04-12 11:54
	P!o > as if stats had anything to do with who's playing well... your allstar games must feature the 8 best hiders.
lux0r	2010-04-12 09:57
	ohhh I would never guess that... now I see...
Delita	2010-04-12 09:27
	I'm a div1 player and I am better than a lot of players on that list and guess what!... both c12 and Isbjorn are better than me. Do the math you newbie.
centaurius	2010-04-12 08:53
	I agree with c12 when he says "an allstar div1 game and an all star div2 game" Even better: Each top 8 clans from div1 pick 1 player each. Those 8 players make div1 allstar game this season. Each top 8 clans from div2 pick 1 player each as well. Those 8 players make div2 allstar game. Both 4 that win from div1 and from div2, make allstar div1 vs allstar div2.
arch^	2010-04-12 08:48
	ROFL delita I could say in response to your silly comment that all the players in the list can play 10x better then what anyone has seen so far. But they just choose not to. Soooo they are still better then isbjorn and c12 Edited: 2010-04-12 08:50
rl	2010-04-12 08:17
	delita: just like you? ...by losing all games but still calling yourself the best player in the world?
Delita	2010-04-12 07:37
	rl: Also, having isbjorn? c12? in allstar game would be some kind of freakin joke, seriously Both are better than half the players on that list. Don't make the mistake of thinking just because they don't do it that they can't do it.
Pio	2010-04-12 06:21
	Had the admin crew filled players statistics as we do in Poland, the problem with picking All Star Game players would have not existed. In our country it works. In truth, stats are only additional information but show who plays well this season and can give extra insight into ASG call up. The only downside is stats of both divisions are in the same place. PLQ2 players stats: http://cup.planetquake.pl/quake2/plq2/index.php?op=pstats PLQ2 All Stars Game: http://cup.planetquake.pl/quake2/plq2/index.php?op=descr&id=22993
optimizer	2010-04-12 05:55
	raskal is more than just a dm1-only player, i think he proved that the last season 2.0 won eq2l. He's the fragmachine a team needs to be succesfull, a player who can turn things around in a coinflip with his aim and speed. Yet, Im not saying he should play the allstar game THIS season. Edited: 2010-04-12 05:56
rl	2010-04-12 04:13
	"Agree, so bring on raskal and give him dm1 room position and chain"... COME ON...I'm not sure if you know, but there're atleast 8 playable maps in q2, and dm1 is just one of them. You can run dm1-only allstarts, then I agree. Also, having isbjorn? c12? in allstar game would be some kind of freakin joke, seriously.. since you have necro for example, in his best shape (even tho he is not a star and he's whining like a sissy girl but he has a good tp, and he's playing much better than any other hbq player atm).
wision	2010-04-11 18:13
	i'm glad you agree
CoVell	2010-04-11 05:53
	covell nub!
arch^	2010-04-09 08:30
	I think it's already supposed to be option 2. Some people just don't do any research. The players you mentionned got over 20 votes together... So I guess people like them!
lux0r	2010-04-09 07:20
	ye, I agree with jakkari... If 5 maps would be played, I don't see why there would not be substitutions... cause some players are more specialized for certain maps/positions than others... and we simply must decide what we want to see... 1. Allstar game with default name list by their "star status" who are active (at least one match) this season... or; 2. Best players of this season, who are most active, with best stats etc... I hope you see what I mean and if we go for option 2. we should organize this show match every season! Cause every season some other players came up in good shape and play active and well whole season... this season we didn't see much of raskal, damiah and gerdt who r in list... maybe aid, mobius, revo deserve more to be in this match It's like a reward for great season.... At least it should be...
jakkari	2010-04-09 06:50
	Why there cant be 2x6 player teams and let them to decide who plays what maps. Since all of those great players deserve a spot in that game. And what about this (Cleaner div2) situation Cleaner really deserve to be on that list.. even tho he plays div2 team but hes still one of the best TDM player atm and active! Its just insane amount of skill what he has.
duco	2010-04-09 04:17
	@ Covell: Fette = [BAM]Papa Doc. [eA]Fette. Fette also being known as one of the best CTF-players around. Also member of .se national team. Fette is known for a combination of agression, teamplay, good aim and amazing actions. Covell: to refresh your memory, Fette raped you and your M-team on next1 and owned you on dm2 in this euroq2l season. And about cleaner. IMO for an allstar game only div1 players should be selected. Players that play q2 actively this season (as Damiah mentioned already) and with a team that competes competitively with the best q2 div1-clans around. I think top4 (div-1) should have 2 players elected for allstar game and div1 ranked #5 to #8 should all provide 1 player to the allstar team. Edited: 2010-04-09 05:03
gerppa	2010-04-09 01:01
	voted gerppa, gl hf!
wision	2010-04-08 17:48
	covell nub!
arch^	2010-04-08 14:44
	Yah gravgon, that is true. Usually the allstar games aren't even of THAT high quality. I'm sure both of the teams would be beaten by play> and probably by other clans too. But it's still fun. Edited: 2010-04-08 14:46
CoVell	2010-04-08 14:31
	No offence, but who is fette Honestly, i dont know
Cheimera	2010-04-08 14:03
	Gravgon you got a point, but still this is about teamplay, and if you put togheter 4 really good teamplayers i bet they will get a better teamplay instantly than 4 aim based players. Careem: In your opinion. And if you start looking at who are best in overall maps then you will have totally different player names in the voting list.
da-be-da	2010-04-08 13:36
	Agree,so bring on raskal and give him dm1 room position and chain
Gravgon	2010-04-08 12:01
	Actually in an allstar game it might be wiser to go for the guys with the best skills and aim if you think about it. Those teams will be put together for just one match so even with the best teamplayers in the world, their communication won't be that great anyway. Maybe it's because to have a team full of players that can do well individually even when the teamplay is a mess. What do you think ?
careem	2010-04-08 10:05
	"nassal, yukatan, Lomin, bubkez etc etc. pointless" Cheimera, those players can't compare to provi / thaigo in TDM nowdays. Tho, nassal is more or less dm1 only player.
(c-12)	2010-04-08 07:01
	Why dont you do an allstar div1 game and an all star div2 game. Could be fun I voted mobius, great to watch his tp. Edited: 2010-04-08 07:02
Reverence	2010-04-08 05:27
	i voted for raskal because i love his over aggressive play style, thats all
Delita	2010-04-07 17:58
	It's true that there is a fine line between each player in 'Play'. However, the point is to distinguish the stars. Purri, Damiah and Provi all have right to be in this match because they are star players regardless of there teamplaying. Bottom line is that any player regarded in such a status should be capable of high level teamplay simply because they have brains or heaps of experience. Personally I think there are some great talents in Quake 2 that are not very recognised. Ibjorn for one, c12 for another - and not just because they are my friends.
arch^	2010-04-07 16:37
	Play has many good teamplayers imo, not only mobius. You can't vote for everyone =[ Ehm, Cheimera you didn't really get it then. What you say is true, but what I said doesn't exclude what you say, does it... So maybe read again what I wrote! I merely stated that the fact that 'that player is important for that clan so he should be in the allstars' is not really a good arguement. If that player already played for good clans and did well there too, or he's like I said really the single player that holds together that clan and makes them get decent results in spite of their average skill, then sure he can be an allstar. So do you think kiru etc should have been voted for by people? Maybe you can tell me who you would vote for. Honestly I think your reaction was a bit childish :\| Edited: 2010-04-07 16:48
Cheimera	2010-04-07 15:22
	Delita exactly. And Gravgon i suppose you mean Cleaner when talking about voted as a star but play in div2 you a coward... Yeh thats exactly why cleaner play in div2, how the hell did you know that!?... ffs. And Careem talks about wanting provi/thaigo? Yeh provi i do get but thaigo is and havent been impressing in tdm for years, i choose gerppa any day before him in todays q2. And yeh talking about players that doesent even play in this league and wanting them in the allstar makes me wanna say, yeh i want nassal, yukatan, Lomin, bubkez etc etc. pointless. And yeh picking an allstar TDM team is about TEAMPLAY before aim any day, but the "usual" fan is as always statswhores. But then again wtf do you expect from this scene? =) When even known oldschool players give you comments as: "Maybe I am not clear enough yet. What I mean is that being an important player for an average div1 clan doesn't make you an allstar. Being important for a top clan does. " So lets say an allstar player everyone would agree to, PURRI for an example, playing for BoD one season, he shouldent be picked to the allstar game cause he plays in an "average" div1 clan. LOL Edited: 2010-04-07 15:24
Delita	2010-04-07 14:53
	Mobius with the least votes, yet one of the most important teamplayers in Play. Shows that the conventional players havn't got a clue.
Gravgon	2010-04-07 12:29
	div2 is the new div3 find the troll... go!
arch^	2010-04-07 11:04
	lol luxor
lux0r	2010-04-07 10:07
	lol, this is getting interesting =) Gravgon u can say that Cleaner is coward... no need to play with words and rl youu shouldn't ether, we all know that arch is that njub btw, is there some kind of imaginary div3? can I join it?
arch^	2010-04-07 06:55
	Do you see those in the list then, rl?
rl	2010-04-07 06:54
	gravgon: what if someone is a njub but is "playing" in div1 clan?
Gravgon	2010-04-06 23:53
	Allstar game is supposed to feature the best. If you're in div3, you're not the best. And if you're voted as a star but you play in div2, you're a coward.
arch^	2010-04-06 18:15
	No, I don't believe you!
Z1on	2010-04-06 18:02
	ANd arch you talk only for aimer believe me
Z1on	2010-04-06 18:00
	TimMmYYY-BTW don't you think I know a bit better who in HBQ are the better teamplayers, then you? dunno man ,but im sure about one HBQ + Necro =monster mashine ,he is just hellraiser like a tdmplayer so? and ok why we have 3 div than???,lets make 3 all star games from the tree divisions where is the problem and will be fresh and interesting i am sure and archy if you talk about organizations,there is the admins (you are assitend admin or something here so dont pass me the ball even you dont have this power you are elder here,you can be more effective than me ) BTW Should be some1 like me to thinks about and invitaisions here :???? (they want Provi,I want Ibogine ) And yes youre not clear enough-div1 player are not so bigger difference about some div2 player not every1 i mean,I point Cleaner here Dont mix the leagues next time
arch^	2010-04-06 16:07
	I mentionned necro. BTW I merely exagerate to make a point But it doesn't seem to work. BTW don't you think I know a bit better who in HBQ are the better teamplayers, then you? Fine that you want to see players with an important role in their team, but that's not what this allstar is about. At least, I was told something else, and here in the news it's also different then what you want. Maybe you can organize your match with the most important players for each of the clans in this euroq2l. Maybe I am not clear enough yet. What I mean is that being an important player for an average div1 clan doesn't make you an allstar. Being important for a top clan does. I prefer teamplayers over aimers, and did so for many many years. Edited: 2010-04-06 16:18
Z1on	2010-04-06 14:43
	lol TiMMyyy really ? you talk no sense again even in your clan Necro have the bigger impact imho or wision ,when you and gerd looks pathetic lol , so after you loose so much time trying to tells me how im mentally retarded couse i single want to saw ppl like Kiru and Aid,and im so insanly stupid couse i talks about careem who had no difference imho for hes clan like cleaner or purri ,thg or thugghee shuggeee-bitch asshoolee hmm btw you talks only for aimers here a arch your patheticness brings worthlessness to your flesh that's what happens when you speak to deaf-mutes ,you dont even try to understand what i want to say to you,Only I can tnx Cheim here I want to see any player with an important role in his team
LakiZzz	2010-04-06 13:57
	I gonna vote for CoVell!!!!
careem	2010-04-06 12:03
	Without provi / thaigo = no allstar game
Cheimera	2010-04-06 11:57
	z1on agree totally with you
arch^	2010-04-06 10:56
	Why do you only respond at the part that I actually agreed with you? I still don't see why I should vote for k1ru or aid. Both are from the same clan and that clan ended 6th this season. How? When both are the absolute top players of this season? You can pick 2 players, then you do not pick players from a clan that ended 6th, unless you are mentally retarded. OR there must be obviously one player who is A LOT better then the other 3. I guess most people think that's the case with cleaner and s0. It is definately not the case with kiru and aid in rage, or covell in muff. And careem, seriously? Even when he was active he was not a top10 player and they asked here for TOP2. Do you get it? TOP TWO. Mentionning an inactive careem who is playing much more ql then q2, for a TOP TWO, IS INSANELY STUPID. Some people make their top2 with aimers, some with good teamers, some look only at scores this season, some look at total package. That's why you still get kinda many different players from a top2. You can see some real teamplayers in the list, and some real aimers etc... What do the players you mention excel at? Covell has good aim yes, but still less than raskal, damiah, purri... At the teamplay part hes WAY behind players like gerdt, necro, mobius, pogo. So ehm now you know why nobody voted for him. The same thing goes for those other players :p Edited: 2010-04-06 11:04
Z1on	2010-04-06 09:35
	TiMyYYYy "The other players are not allstars... They ask you to pick 2 players. When you can pick players like purri, shuugh, cleaner... who is gonna vote for aid or k1ru?" lol you commercial bastards ,about mobiuz ,arch yes he is in the top 12 but i mean that he should have more votes,this is the real deal for the play> after purri,and sometimes with much more important imho at play>games people must rate/vote much more for him,its time people to see the black workers at teams...
arch^	2010-04-06 07:58
	Lol z1on. Mobius underrated, might be yeh. But at least he's in the top 12. The other players are not allstars... They ask you to pick 2 players. When you can pick players like purri, shuugh, cleaner... who is gonna vote for aid or k1ru? I think there are actually too many players in the list. Only several of those have been active during the whole season, most of them have been active like half the season, and some have not been active at all. I think that is stupid. Better make a 2o2 allstar or smth Edited: 2010-04-06 08:00
Z1on	2010-04-06 06:14
	good list ,makes you think ,but there is a lot of players you forgot about....they make a impact imo every game,like onimusha,Ivers,AID,K1ru,CoVellanuss ,and Careem ,and player like mobiuz is a way underrated for me shame on you q2 noobiums
destroyer8472	2010-04-06 05:43
	moe luxor : ) i voted necro biatch. cropower Edited: 2010-04-06 05:45
Damiah	2010-04-05 18:49
	When you vote check how these players have played in this season. For example I havent played hardly at all in this season and i really dont think people should vote me in. There are like 15 better players than me at the moment. There should be the top tdm players of this season, not from the previous ones. Looking forward to watch the game! Good Job
Juzam	2010-04-04 13:15
	Dm2 plz.
lux0r	2010-04-04 07:59
	pre-ordered maplist would be nice... next1 to start with for warmup, than dm3, dm6, dm2 and I hope there will be 2:2, so dm1 as a decider
sovet	2010-04-04 03:48
	Would also be nice to see the all* teams playing the entire current map list. But I guess that's too much to ask. I imagine 8*20 minutes with pauses.
NiGGY	2010-04-03 19:19
	i want to see revo in one team! really good aim and tp for him nowadays!... better revo than damiah! more active...
Gravgon	2010-04-03 18:32
	that would be nice. well balanced teams.
lux0r	2010-04-03 15:29
	cleaner fette gerdt damiah vs purri goat necro shuggh moze?
rl	2010-04-02 15:39
	provi and raskal = dm1/rail only so it wouldn't be that intersting tho. + they both seems to be inactive. cleaner and purri can't be in the same team!
da-be-da	2010-04-02 13:12
	id like to see provi,purri,raskal,cleaner in one team
Cheimera	2010-04-02 09:21
	yeh me to
NiGGY	2010-04-01 18:17
	you are right cheimera but i liked to see him there... just it was my wish...
FOEKEN	2010-04-01 10:38
	fette =]
Cheimera	2010-04-01 07:31
	sovet, and how can you find out who is the best team support unless you check every singel official demo . Frag/death ratio is almost the least iteresting part in TDM. I think it should be great teamplayers, not aim based, aim we get in EDL, teamplay we want in eq2l. Niggy: provi hasent played a singel game this season? and wizards left the league so they have nothing to do in the allstar obviously. Edited: 2010-04-01 07:33
Z1on	2010-04-01 06:55
	Papa Doc rulez
sovet	2010-04-01 05:02
	Purri, Cleaner, Gerdt, Shuugghh, Damiah, Pogo. Necro and my last pick would whoever is the most effective BAM player in terms of frags-deaths ratio and tema support.
duco	2010-04-01 04:05
	div2 player seems very popular
kinezu	2010-03-31 22:21
	I ve choosed Cleaner, but i could name 4-5 players that would fit in that poll as good as any mentioned already. There are many players wich frag less but they have a very positive influence for the teammates. Good game coordinators. As an example for s0 team, a good coordinator and maybe the best is bishop. Edited: 2010-03-31 22:28
NiGGY	2010-03-31 20:12
	i prefer to see provi than damiah... Edited: 2010-04-01 04:30
DM	2010-03-31 19:14
	purri and damiah two noobs...
Delita	2010-03-31 19:13
	C12 should be there!
biah	2010-03-31 19:10
	Read above. Those 12 got the most votes...
centaurius	2010-03-31 16:47
	Nice
LakiZzz	2010-03-31 16:14
	Is Cleaner does not play in div2? And why not in the list aid or DM??
masteris	2010-03-31 15:56
	ech.. no provi in the list :/
Delita	2010-03-31 15:34
	I don't see my name on there!

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