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Jump #11
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8th jump tournament. Thoughts2012-03-02 09:37 | APKIS
We are almost over with 8th jump tournament (one game for 11-18th places left) and it is the right time to sum up and estimate everything.

Positive things:
1. There were 36 signed players for tournament. This is still awesome amount of players because the q2 scene is simply dying.
2. Many high skilled jumpers signed aswell. Even not all of them are active.
3. 2-3 jump servers for tournament.
4. Many admins around who controlled the games.
5. Positive communication between players and admins.

Negative things:
1. Players still keep not showing up without a reason
2. Slow download servers.
3. Different maplist on each server
4. Conflicts in map versions on each server
5. Servers getting down before/during tournament.

The conclusion
Since I am the head-admin and a regular player I will summarize the things according to that fact. It was 8th jump tournament and so far the worst. And here is the answer why. Group stage was pretty smooth. Only one group stressed me, as an admin. Playoffs stage was more stressed. I had problems with finding a proper time for all the players. The problem started with the 1st jump tournament and this season it was really huge. Plus again, problems with jump tournament servers. The main reason the 8th jump tournament was the worst, is the worst final ever. No, it is not because I got “only” 5th place (to be honest, it is really high place if you look who played), no it is not because KroPP or santher got in top3. It was all about the servers we played and the maps we got. Most of final players would agree. And they would agree about the fact that the best jump server was , is, and will be former Wireplay jump server. Why? In epic jumping times, when server had admins like Rambler, Crom, of course Neur0, the maplist was really smooth, most likely unfriendly for jump starters. All the maps were filtrated, accepting only smooth maps (yes, there are like 200 maps which should not be on the server but they appeared later, not in 2004-2008). However, we couldn’t use wireplay tournament server because of 2 reasons: server is very unstable with many players and we didn’t have admins there. The servers we played had bad settings: wrong maplist, with like 1000 maps who should not be accepted, slow and strange downloadings. I am not against the maps I have never played before. But those maps are bad choice because they are not seriously tested. Let’s be honest: half maps we played in finals were not suitable for it. It ruined the fun, the joy we could take from such a beautiful event with so many top players.
Despite the negative things happened to us I would still want to say huge thanks to server owners, UniBG, Neur0, quadz. Huge thanks to admins draxi, santher, KroPP, Teioch. And huge thanks to those who enjoyed the tournament, enjoyed the way it went, didn’t get angry with my decisions. And thanks to all players who played and thanks to those who deserved to be thanked.

Next season, if we are going to have it, will be different. I will run it only if I have a server on my own or the owner of the server will be an active player who are online every day. Now we have none of them.

Comments

APKIS
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2012-03-03 18:41 
sofiene, it was not you who ran this tournament, so you should shup up.
sofiene
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2012-03-03 16:14 
APKIS,stop whining emo

this tournaments' final was the best (counting from when i started q2 = 2 years or smth),was really tight and nook almost lost his spot

thx to the admins and the sponsors and ofc the players emo emo
LofasKing
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2012-03-02 17:31 
Great tourney, enjoyed everything, big thanks to everyone who helped with making it emo Congratz to winners. Looking forward to the next one! emo

Edited: 2012-03-02 17:35
Goblin`
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2012-03-02 16:32 
was nice as always emo
n00k1e
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2012-03-02 15:50 
i am too drunk now but i will write down my idea tomorrow emo
Zuen
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2012-03-02 15:47 
Zuen says : Give sk3let0r's idea a go!
_SK3L3T0R_
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2012-03-02 14:53 
To be honest, this was probably the most enjoyable final I have seen, atleast as far as I can remember!
I understand that most of the players in the final didn't appreciate most of the maps that mr. random voted, but when we have 2000+ maps, it's very unlikely to get 8 good maps!

Maybe we should rethink the way maps are picked for next season.. It would be fun to see how a tournament with only like 20-30 maps would go! I know it'll be hard to pick the maps we should use, but then again, people will have the opportunity to practice all the maps, and this way we will be absolutely sure that the guy who wins, is the best jumper, instead of one guy winning by some lucky random votes!

Then again, 15 mins might be a bit too much when everyone knows the map.. So we could set it to 10 mins, or maybe 5, and the tournament would run a bit smoother! People wouldn't have to set aside 2+ hours to play one single round of the tournament, just 1 hour would be enough! We could play more in the weekends, having 2-3 groups each day shouldn't be any problem. This way it would be easier to mix EU and USA players in each group, and making it a bit more fair for everyone!

We could ofcourse try it out in a small invitational speed-tournament first! If we had 16 players, and played each map for 5 mins, we would easily kick that into a 3-4 hours tournament.. (8 players each group, top 4 of each group into the final)

Just something to think about... emo

Edited: 2012-03-02 16:33
APKIS
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2012-03-02 14:50 
ye, but most likely i won't be here. Got some party tomorrow emo But you have sk3l3tor, he will handle things emo
drk
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2012-03-02 14:30 
You forgot that tomorrow we have a game for places 11-18 emo
Halcyon
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2012-03-02 13:02 
Thanks a bunch, it was my first tourny and I enjoyed it while I lasted emo
KroPP
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2012-03-02 11:22 
The tournament wasn't that bad Apkis, there were some really fun games and really fun maps. You did good job! I think the most important thing is the server (so that it works and has wp maplist).

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