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Match: UK vs RUS
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Summary

flag United Kingdom vs Russia flag
Type:GROUP A
Referee:flag wision
Date:2008-02-28 19:00
Score:0:2
Frags:0:0
Maps:w/o, w/o
Scores:o:w, o:w
Demos:———

Description
short story:
the score was 1:1 after 2 maps and during the third map, UK left the team for no reason after 3 minutes of game. after that, they gave to admins misleading information, based on which we made wrong decision to allow them to replay the match.

long story:
the match score was 1:1 after 2 maps.. teams decided third map and started the game. game was nice and smooth until 17:45 (score 20:4 RUS:UK). after this time, UK player EON got lagged and at 17:15 (score 24:4 RUS:UK) UK player scream noticed that and called timeout. between 17:45 and 17:15 EON wasn't killed or even saw by russian players (so they didn't know that EON lagged). in the timeout, couple of UK players were demanding restart and started to leave the team with mirr as first player, followed by scream and the 3rd player. EON was the last one who left in the team since he wasn't actually in the game. during this timeout there was some chat between both sides, timeout expired and EON got timed out and game moved to another 2 minutes timeout where one team had no players. during those 2 minutes EON rejoined server but didn't rejoin the team in order to continue in the match. both sides decided to call admin, and after that 2 minutes timeout also expired. i have to mention that UK had 5th player in the observer and they could pick him any time. after decision to ask admin about what to do next, scream gave me (wision) misleading information at first that EON typed ready, lagged and didn't play for ~3 minutes, after that he corrected himself and said that he played 30 secs from the start (since from the demos we know that he played at least for 2:15, it was still incorrect). another information was that russian players were killing him whole time he was lagged (which is also wrong), and that they did not tell anything and did not calling timeout when scream asked for couple of times (also wrong because scream said "EON not moving" and timeout was called in next 3 seconds). so based on information that the game was played 3v4 for 3 minutes and about unfair behavior from russian side, me and gravgon agreed on replaying the map from the start. but after little demo check, 3 out of 4 (1 admin wasn't online) NDML admins agreed that UK had no right to leave the team (not even saying that they should have asked about replay before leaving the team). based on this we also agreed on putting WO because UK left the team for no reason.

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Comments

Zipgun
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2008-03-03 18:38 
How's about uploading the screenshot from the 3rd map that was finished too or would that not be politically correct?
Zipgun
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2008-03-03 18:36 
http://hellishhumor.com/bizzare-photos/possible-only-in-russia.html emo

We could trade links all day.
It's not going to get us anywhere.
ficha
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2008-03-03 18:25 
http://youtube.com/watch?v=oDAqJziZ9C0&feature=related emo
Zipgun
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2008-03-03 17:43 
http://youtube.com/watch?v=EgXysGTIIGQ&feature=related
wision
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2008-03-03 17:34 
scream i believe that i did everything correctly, i didn't do the decision myself, 3 admins talked about it and agreed together.. maybe the only bad thing from my side was that i said that you lied to admins.. for me, lying is not telling truth, not considering if it's on purpose or not (probably language differencies).. i don't think you are a liar.. i just meant that you didn't give us proper information what actually really happen.. if you are offended, i'm sorry (i can even edit my post here if you wish so)
Gravgon
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2008-03-03 17:15 
After watching the demo, I don't think this w/o is too harsh emo

You really pushed for the restart and forced Russia to give up their well started game while they did nothing wrong. Of course, as I told you, I understand that you can take stupid decisions in the heat of the moment but you had the possibility to pause the game (plenty of timeouts left) and think a bit more.

You didn't and the only possible consequence is a w/o for that map which results in a w/o of the whole game since you cannot forfeit only just a map in this league.

I'd still like the screenshots of the two first maps to be added to this report since they were played without problems.

The only wrong things here are Muerte's comments. I don't consider them harsh... just plain stupid as usual.

Edited: 2008-03-03 17:24
JONNY
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2008-03-03 17:12 
well after speaking with gravgon for a while, he determined this w/o to be too harsh... so maybe something will happen?

wision: i know ur doing ur job and all and u admin alot of leagues but sometimes you really do lack diplomacy... its not a 'dig' at you but in the heat of the moment and it being 1-1 in maps we all got carried away... i still (and gravgon i think) dont think its very reasonable the original dm3 was only 3:30? old even tho it was 24-3 or whatever we could have still won it was still an OPEN GAME! lets hope you reconsider your option as gravgon says because otherwise i feel you have robbed us of a 4th place finish in this league as we ALL ageed on dm3 being played again... yea gr8 was on server but he went for a shower...i cant personally kick him off the server...he just wanted to keep his spot to watch the rest of the game as the server was full dude... atleast have some communication back to us as what will happen next please otherwise this whole ndml has been a total waste of time... peaceout


screamz (king lier ^^)

Edited: 2008-03-03 17:14
ficha
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2008-03-03 11:51 
http://youtube.com/watch?v=yRTw5EIIRG8
eon
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2008-03-03 11:38 
cheat ? where ?
Muerte
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2008-03-03 07:08 
nice defense
cheat
lie
blame other

at least this comments show how even retarded behavior have retarded supporters

eon
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2008-03-02 18:39 
next time i ll restart my pc before i start to play, my pc was running 5 days or something around that, looks like its my mistake and now we got a big mess.... :/
Rogal
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2008-03-02 17:17 
yeah they make me sick 2 emo
*rl*
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2008-03-02 16:32 
emm muerte do me a favour and stfu...your comments make me (and not only me) sick...so stop posting shit in here... and i bet you know nothing of what happened...
Zipgun
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2008-03-02 15:41 
I didn't 'lie' to the admins. I left the team because I saw that eon wasn't moving and saw his score and thought that he had been lagged and lag killed for the first 3 minutes of the game. I may have been mistaken but that's what I thought had happened in the heat of the game.

And muerte fuck off you turd!
JONNY
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2008-03-02 10:57 
mueta: fuck off

Edited: 2008-03-02 18:50
Spam
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2008-03-02 08:56 
hahahaha, gg UK!, sounds like a smart move to leave team when your loosing emo
Muerte
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2008-03-02 07:09 
one thing make me wonder ?
why "King of liars" SCREAM didn't kick from league
he not even get a warning and continue to insult admin
this kind type of behavior is good for league?

emo
wision
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2008-03-02 06:31 
so two of you were standing at rl for 30 seconds and then you wrote "EON not moving" and called timeout right away? that's your own fault.
as for gr8.. if he couldn't play, why was he on the server?

don't forget that this wasn't just my decision.. 3 ndml admins agreed.. but i guess that you need somebody to give shit since you are not able to see your own mistake.

anyway.. it doesn't change anything on the thing that you lied to admins about situation which helped you to get good decision from them. that's not fair towards admins nor your opponent
JONNY
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2008-03-01 17:54 
hmm for a start wision.. i was the last person to leave the team... it was mirr then zipgun ( eon was lagged out) me and zipgun were standing next to eon at RL for atleast 30 seconds as i dropped the RL twice for him and he still dint move allowing russia to take a quad and distribute weapons. Our 5th player was GR8 and he played the first 2 maps but then went for a shower allowing zipgun to play. I spoke to gravgon earlier and he informed me no russian player complained as we had a restart of the map and to be honest dm3 was a great close game... and if it still stands like this then it sucks... i think we should play the 3rd map again if the russians dont mind emo
GGs russia and respect for playing the 3rd map again...its a shame that its pointless and irrelevant now emo once again wision has showed the internets is serious business emo lets hope this power hungry moron doesnt get to admin ever again! bye !

/SCREAM

Edited: 2008-03-01 17:55
Muerte
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2008-03-01 08:58 
eon ru thaigo's lost dog ?
stop barking or will someone call animal control

bad dog emo
eon
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2008-02-29 20:39 
eh muerte, go and find ur master thaigo, i think hes lost his doggy... decision is right i agree, but dont try to be smarter than u r..
Muerte
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2008-02-29 18:44 
gj admins
excellent and only right decision

i guess Rules should be improved:
- gave to admins misleading information...

unbelievable childish behavior by UK team emo
Rogal
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2008-02-29 17:43 
UK lost by w/o. But they shouldnt.
zbone
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2008-02-29 15:33 
wtf happened?
eon
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2008-02-29 15:21 
we won 2-1 so i dont give a shit now, we just waste our time, shame only coz we lost a chance for a 4th place and playoffs :/ but still GG
Rogal
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2008-02-29 15:10 
There was a reason. The reson was Eon timed out in the beggining of the map. So rest quited. Nice... gg?
eon
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2008-02-28 19:25 
gg

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